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Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:04 pm to GatorBait24
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:04 pm to GatorBait24
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The guy who took a bunch of Randy Shannon 3 stars and coached them up to a top 20 D? Okay sure.
Are you new on here? Or do you need the education on Grantham and his methods?
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:08 pm to GruvenDawg
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ink is not about Facilities...updated the title on the link...it was from the behind the scenes from SEC Network on the Georgia - Florida game this year
All I heard was Kirby trying to act like he’s not a middle aged white man from the south. “All I need is for y’all to cut your arse loose” wtf does that even mean?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:11 pm to GatorBait24
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What he did at MSU is irrelevant. It’s a different situation.
I have no idea why people try to act like Mississippi State is a good litmus test as to whether or not someone is a successful coach. You're at a constant handicap against schools who make more money, spend it more, have better prestige and education in better locations with better facilities.
There isn't a coach in the country that could turn that program around, and it shows since they've only been ranked #1 once in the entire history of the program.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:11 pm to meansonny
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Are you new on here? Or do you need the education on Grantham and his methods?
I’ve heard all the Georgia rubbish about 3rd and Grantham. The problem is the evidence from State and Florida tells me it was a Georgia problem not a Grantham one. You seem a bit biased anyway. He did lose to us enough while he was on your sideline.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:12 pm to GatorBait24
It's not even 3rd and Grantham (which was a factor in the 2018 game).
You still haven't discovered his personnel handlings?
You still haven't discovered his personnel handlings?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:14 pm to meansonny
If you're talking about the Georgia game any team is going to have a rough time on third and long when they're missing both starting corners and their best safety.
Compounded by McElwain leaving an extremely thin backup secondary.
I guarantee you this year will have much different results on third and long now that we have quality backups even if they're freshmen.
Compounded by McElwain leaving an extremely thin backup secondary.
I guarantee you this year will have much different results on third and long now that we have quality backups even if they're freshmen.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:16 pm to GruvenDawg
Feel bad for the guy that's injured, but how this list keeps growing is astounding.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:20 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I guarantee you this year will have much different results on third and long now that we have quality backups even if they're freshmen.
That's funny.
sec conference play - Florida ranks 11th in opposing 3rd down conversions
But it isn't even about 3rd and Grantham. His NFL mentality gives fans false hope (i.e. top 20 defense). He tricked you, Straws. You were bragging about that top 10 defense early in the 2018 season. I told you his problems would crop up and they did.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:23 pm to GatorBait24
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I’ve heard all the Georgia rubbish about 3rd and Grantham. The problem is the evidence from State and Florida tells me it was a Georgia problem not a Grantham one.
Just so I can keep track, the evidence for Grantham at State is useful and we should acknowledge it, the evidence for Mullen at State on the other hand is useless and we should ignore it. Did I catch that correctly?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:27 pm to Jebadeb
Sucks for him... just a reminder though one of Mullen's Strength and conditioning coaches was the S&C for Maryland when their player died. I think he pushes the limits too far and doesn't allow enough recovery time and I think that starts at the top.
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:28 pm to meansonny
What in the kentucky fried frick are you talking about? 
He literally produced a top 20 defense. If you want me to be mad about a 10 - 3 season with a top 20 defense (scoring defense as well) then I think you're trying too hard.
And just for the sake of argument: Georgia gave up 19.2 points a game, Florida gave up 20.
Keep in mind, Kirby has his team in place and a few years of a head start while Mullen inherited his team. Kirby gave up 24 points a game in 2016 with a considerably better roster.
He literally produced a top 20 defense. If you want me to be mad about a 10 - 3 season with a top 20 defense (scoring defense as well) then I think you're trying too hard.
And just for the sake of argument: Georgia gave up 19.2 points a game, Florida gave up 20.
Keep in mind, Kirby has his team in place and a few years of a head start while Mullen inherited his team. Kirby gave up 24 points a game in 2016 with a considerably better roster.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:29 pm to fibonaccisquared
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ust so I can keep track, the evidence for Grantham at State is useful and we should acknowledge it, the evidence for Mullen at State on the other hand is useless and we should ignore it. Did I catch that correctly?
If you can produce a top 10 D at State you can do it at Florida so yes. Just like if you can take State to #1 you can do the same at Florida in Mullen’s case. What’s not fair is saying what they did at State is there ceiling. Did you catch that?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:30 pm to Jebadeb
It seriously never seems to end...I expect it to get more interesting once fall camp gets going.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:30 pm to yatesdog38
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Sucks for him... just a reminder though one of Mullen's Strength and conditioning coaches was the S&C for Maryland when their player died. I think he pushes the limits too far and doesn't allow enough recovery time and I think that starts at the top.
Good let the weak transfer
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:30 pm to yatesdog38
Stop it Yatesy
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:32 pm to GatorBait24
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What he did at MSU is irrelevant. It’s a different situation.
If it’s irrelevant then you can’t give him credit for any of the good either. But we’re talking about his game management and his time at MSU should be considered.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:32 pm to meansonny
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ut it isn't even about 3rd and Grantham. His NFL mentality gives fans false hope (i.e. top 20 defense). He tricked you, Straws. You were bragging about that top 10 defense early in the 2018 season. I told you his problems would crop up and they did.
Yeah okay...
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:33 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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If it’s irrelevant then you can’t give him credit for any of the good either. But we’re talking about his game management and his time at MSU should be considered.
My use of irrelevant was hyperbole so you got me there. Some of it is relevant. However I think you catch my drift, What Mullen and Grantham did at State isn’t there ceiling.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:35 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
We’re talking specifically about his game day decisions. His time at MSU can be used for that.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:36 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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e’re talking specifically about his game day decisions. His time at MSU can be used for that
Agree, any issues like faking a punt on 4th and 12 with a Blue chip QB?
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 4:37 pm
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