re: First Coaches Poll and AP Poll of 2023

You were number one going into the first playoff man. Tell yourself that if you want to believe it.

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No one feared Alabama after the Kick Six in November 2013.

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Congratulations to the Fighting Aggies for coming in at 25. Jimbo has this thing turned around.

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Beat LSU last year and I am expecting another loss for LSU against Texas A&M this season. Plus, with an addition to a new OC shall be much improved on offense this season.

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You were number one going into the first playoff man. Tell yourself that if you want to believe it.

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I can't help that you don't remember the conversations surrounding our program after the losses to Auburn and Oklahoma in 2013-14, the loss to Ohio State in the CFP, and the loss to Ole Miss at home in 2015.

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Good things never last. One of these days you will be right about Alabama and Nick Saban. It could be 2023 for all we know, but this is a very talented Alabama team Saban has in Tuscaloosa. So we'll see.

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ShoesSwayedBlue
Stoops and UK own South Carolina [sans the times our QB was on crutches] the last ten years and since he's gotten clear of Jokers guys Stoops is 3 for 5 against Florida, including the last two. And the game is at Commonwealth[will always be Commonwealth to me].

The Cats are gonna stomp both of them this year.

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At least we kicked out all the bad apples from last year. No excuses for Fisher to fall back on.

Youth? No. Lack of talent? No. Bad LB coach? No. If he fails this year again, he has nowhere to hide from his failures.

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RollTide1987

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Y'all are either misunderstanding the point I'm making, or are intentionally ignoring it and drawing a line in the sand pretending that people think bama sucks now, which nobody is saying.

I'll try again. During the height/pinnacle of Sabans' run which is what I'd very loosely call 2011-2016, it felt like bama was literally umnable to be beaten. Going into every season, and every game, there was no chance they would be contended with and it was just assumed they'd go undefeated and win it all. In the rare cases they DID lose, it was jarring. It was almost unbelievable and you had to double check the score to make sure you saw it right.

They've had phenomenal seasons after that of course and won several titles after that. But very recently, the last 2 seasons, they have felt human. They seem more beatable. THey don't feel like an impenetrable force like they used to. Hell, just int he last 2 seasons:

-2 point win over a UF team wiht a losing record (UGA beat by 27)
-Loss to a 4-loss ATM with a scrub QB
-6 point win over an LSU team with a losing record
-7 point win over a decent arkansas team (UGA beat by 37)
-2 point win in 4OT over an AU team wiht a losing record (UGA led 21-0 in the 4th quarter over the same team)
-15 point loss in title game
-1 point come from behind win over a 5-loss Texas
-3 point loss to a good UT team (that UGA would shellack)
-1 point loss to a good LSu team (that UGA would shellack)
-6 point win over a 5 loss ole miss

As of late they've been not only losing a bit higher clip, but even some of their wins have been much closer and out of character than they used to be. All of that is objective, inarguable fact. What's also inarguable fact is that they played for a natty in one of these seasons and finished top 5 in the other. Nobody is saying bama sucks. But they ARE a bit of a different program now. That's also inarguable. Ask yourself 2 things:

1) Do you feel as a bama fan that we are still at the PEAK of saban's run? As in, we are at the highest level of his tenure?

2) Do you think all fo the above that I listed in just 2 seasons would have happened between 2011-2016?

I think if you answer yes to either of those you're simply lying, for whatever reason.
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1) Do you feel as a bama fan that we are still at the PEAK of saban's run? As in, we are at the highest level of his tenure?

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How old are you? I didn't think BAMA had it all together in 2010. They still went on to win the next 2 NCs. I didn't think BAMA had it together in 2013, and 2014 was an offense with no identity. They still went to play in 3 straight National Championship games (2015-2018), winning 2 of them. 2019 was injuries galore and a terrible, terrible defense. They lost 2 regular season games in '19' and yes, again BAMA's dynasty was over, again. BAMA went on to win it again in 2020. How long has that actually been on your calendar? BAMA losing games should have come as little shock in plenty of times and years.

It doesn't mean much when coach Saban has built a dynasty that simply reloads every season. As history proves. How you happen to feel about it all doesn't really matter, does it?

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How old are you?

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not sure how that's relevant

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I didn't think BAMA had it all together in 2010. They still went on to win the next 2 NCs. I didn't think BAMA had it together in 2013, and 2014 was an offense with no identity. They still went to play in 3 straight National Championship games (2015-2018), winning 2 of them. 2019 was injuries galore and a terrible, terrible defense. They lost 2 regular season games in '19' and yes, again BAMA's dynasty was over, again. BAMA went on to win it again in 2020. How long has that actually been on your calendar?

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once again, you're trying to play victim when no one is victiminzing you. Can you point to any time where I've sayd bama's dynasty is over? I konw you can't, becaus eI never have. NEver once. I've sipmly sai dtaht the bama of today, right now, over the last 2 seaosns, is not the same program of the 10 years before it. That's not even really debatable. Yet somehow yall take it as a personal insult.

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It doesn't mean much when coach Saban has built a dynasty that simply reloads every season

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Your own fans must be confused then because I sure have heard a lot about the various shortcomings, particularly staffing wise, of the last 2 years.

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As history proves.

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Correct, history has proven that the last 2 years of bama football arn't of the same caliber as the years before it. I agree.

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Stoops and UK own South Carolina [sans the times our QB was on crutches] the last ten years and since he's gotten clear of Jokers guys Stoops is 3 for 5 against Florida, including the last two. And the game is at Commonwealth[will always be Commonwealth to me].

The Cats are gonna stomp both of them this year.

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ohhh no...you guys owned Will Muschamp...

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Penn state is the most boring school every year. They always start out preseason top 15 and finish about there and people forget about their season as soon as it’s over

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Every single year and this never changes.

Its been this way forever.

They are just kind of always there around 10 or 11.

Rinse, wash, repeat.