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re: Finebaum: Bryan Harsin’s eventual dismissal is ‘inevitable’
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:40 am to SemperFiDawg
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:40 am to SemperFiDawg
Everyone’s dismissal from coaching is eventually inevitable… save for a small handful. That’s not exactly ground breaking stuff from Paul.
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Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:40 am to SemperFiDawg
Saying Auburn will eventually fire their football coach is like saying the sun will eventually come up.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:47 am to SemperFiDawg
Can we stop and just appreciate how masterfully Tommy Tubbervile handled the BOT at AU?
Prelude: dude was DC for Jimmie Johnson at the U. He learned well.
Leaves Ole Miss where the night before he was on National TV declaring he would leave Ole Miss in a pine box. Signed a contact with AU the next day in a televised presser.
Did multiple staff changes to keep the heat off him. But in the end Petrino was gaining ground. BOT made illegal contact with Petrino. Tubs says give me my damn money. They had to pay him.
Dude is a genius.
Prelude: dude was DC for Jimmie Johnson at the U. He learned well.
Leaves Ole Miss where the night before he was on National TV declaring he would leave Ole Miss in a pine box. Signed a contact with AU the next day in a televised presser.
Did multiple staff changes to keep the heat off him. But in the end Petrino was gaining ground. BOT made illegal contact with Petrino. Tubs says give me my damn money. They had to pay him.
Dude is a genius.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:53 am to SemperFiDawg
He's not wrong, Auburn put themselves and Harsin in a no win situation overall.
The investigation into allegations towards Harsin needed to happen, but the PTB jumping on the rumor mill and leaking that he was being investigated to try and create something so they could fire with cause, hurt the school, the program, Harsin, and the team.
It was a misguided power play.
The investigation into allegations towards Harsin needed to happen, but the PTB jumping on the rumor mill and leaking that he was being investigated to try and create something so they could fire with cause, hurt the school, the program, Harsin, and the team.
It was a misguided power play.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:06 am to SemperFiDawg
Gonna be a weird few months for Auburn and Harsin. Once the season starts, it will become a weekly dead pool. With every loss, pressure will mount and every win will cause speculation about "when/if"... but seems pretty clear it won't last.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:15 am to SemperFiDawg
Again?
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:19 am to SemperFiDawg
quote:We're winning the whole damn thing. This is how Auburn rolls.
Good times. The only thing better than watching the disaster on the Plains last week is knowing it was just a prelude to another one coming this Fall.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:31 am to SemperFiDawg
quote:We can only hope and pray for that kind of entertainment.
it was just a prelude to another one coming this Fall.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:37 am to alpinetiger
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We're winning the whole damn thing. This is how Auburn rolls.
No, it isn't.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:45 am to RT1941
Because the decision remained with the President and he did not feel there were grounds for dismissal and did not want to payoff the contract if there wasn't grounds for dismissal. The money would have been paid by a few individuals and they were willing to pay it off. Money wasn't an issue.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:58 am to Irons Puppet
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In Alabama you do not have to have a cause to fire someone. He would receive his contracted salary and everyone would move on. AU wasn't going to get out of the contract for cause, but they were willing to pay it off.
I didn't say they couldn't fire him. I was saying that auburn was trying to manufacture "cause" with this rule about cooperating. Why even come up with that rule if you were not trying to manufacture cause? Civil court judges tend to get pretty pissed off when shenanigans like that are pulled. Meaning on top of the buyout, the school may have ended up with a civil penalty if they kept going down that route. So they backed down. Pretty simple
Posted on 2/15/22 at 12:08 pm to PeleofAnalytics
bullshite, AU wasn't trying to manufacture a reason to fire Harsin, disgruntled ex-players and staff provide the University with information. The University had no choice other than to investigate after these issues were made:
1. Adverse treatment of players
2. Hostile work environment toward staff
3. Improper relationship with subordinate
AU actually stuck their neck out by keeping Harsin after an investigation. If any of these are found to be true, the liability will be 10X the $18M buyout.
Some posters are just stupid.
1. Adverse treatment of players
2. Hostile work environment toward staff
3. Improper relationship with subordinate
AU actually stuck their neck out by keeping Harsin after an investigation. If any of these are found to be true, the liability will be 10X the $18M buyout.
Some posters are just stupid.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 12:09 pm to rebeloke
quote:On top of that, he quit on Auburn after a 5-7 season and was still paid a $5.1 million buyout.
Can we stop and just appreciate how masterfully Tommy Tubbervile handled the BOT at AU?
Prelude: dude was DC for Jimmie Johnson at the U. He learned well.
Leaves Ole Miss where the night before he was on National TV declaring he would leave Ole Miss in a pine box. Signed a contact with AU the next day in a televised presser.
Did multiple staff changes to keep the heat off him. But in the end Petrino was gaining ground. BOT made illegal contact with Petrino. Tubs says give me my damn money. They had to pay him.
Dude is a genius.
He then went to Texas Tech, where he was paid more millions to amass a 20-17 record before leaving a recruiting dinner in the middle of the meal to take the Cincinnati job.
And, as a cherry on top, years later Tuberville was able to translate all this into being elected to the Senate from a state he didn't even live in with a platform that was essentially "I like God and Trump" written in crayon on half of a Post-it note as his first ever political job. Since then, he's been free to violate stock trading rules over 100 times in order to grow his personal wealth.
It's amazing. The man is a walking argument against the existence of meritocracy.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 12:12 pm to SemperFiDawg
I've been away. I thought he was being fired last week? What happened?
Posted on 2/15/22 at 12:35 pm to hogcard1964
quote:He's there to stay.
I've been away. I thought he was being fired last week? What happened?
Posted on 2/15/22 at 12:37 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Y'all have a mole in your administration. Whoever leaked that crap should be terminated immediately.
bullshite, AU wasn't trying to manufacture a reason to fire Harsin, disgruntled ex-players and staff provide the University with information. The University had no choice other than to investigate after these issues were made:
1. Adverse treatment of players
2. Hostile work environment toward staff
3. Improper relationship with subordinate
AU actually stuck their neck out by keeping Harsin after an investigation. If any of these are found to be true, the liability will be 10X the $18M buyout.
Some posters are just stupid.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 12:53 pm to Irons Puppet
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1. Adverse treatment of players
Must coaches coddle players now?
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2. Hostile work environment toward staff
A lot of A personality, driven people can be like this. Can easily be seen as a positive.
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3. Improper relationship with subordinate
Was this ever proven, or just rumored?
Posted on 2/15/22 at 12:54 pm to SemperFiDawg
Finebaum repackages conventional wisdom from message boards and feeds it back to the same people who go "oh look what Finebaum said"
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:08 pm to Referee
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Listen to him and you will know your teams weaknesses and those of your opponents as well.
Finebalm (sp intentional)is greasy hack!! He might have some knowledge of a few programs but is clueless of the others!
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:24 pm to East Coast Band
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3. Improper relationship with subordinate
Was this ever proven, or just rumored?
I do not believe it was or if it was ever a real issue. It would have been the easiest allegation to get rid of Harsin if true.
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