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Posted on 1/19/24 at 2:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
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No, they're much more similar than they are different.
Ok, still glad Alabama didn't hire him. Better to be similar to Kelly than to actually be Kelly.
Personally, I don't really see it.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:00 pm to 3down10
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Ok, still glad Alabama didn't hire him. Better to be similar to Kelly than to actually be Kelly.
Personally, I don't really see it.
What are the positives for DeBoer that you like over Kelly?
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
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What are the positives for DeBoer that you like over Kelly?
He has improved every program he's gone to and shown he can do more with less.
The only concern is his FBS history isn't very long. And his name is too close to DuBose at first glance.
There isn't anyone who is going to replace Saban. I have the same expectations for DeBoer as I did when Saban came. If he can keep the program in good standing and win a national championship, I'll be happy. Anything more than that is a bonus.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:48 pm to WeTheTide
We don't have to do nothing but stay black and die
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:51 pm to WeTheTide
Deboar is a good coach who will have the tide in a good position.
He’s not urban Meyer or saban but could continually have Bama at the top of the polls which is all that matters now that there’s a 12 team playoff
He’s not urban Meyer or saban but could continually have Bama at the top of the polls which is all that matters now that there’s a 12 team playoff
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:58 pm to SidewalkTiger
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No, they're much more similar than they are different.
How many people has DeBoer killed? To my knowledge, it is (at least) 1 less than Kelly. Does DeBoer like to dry hump and grind on 17 year old boys? Kelly does. How many times did Kelly underachieve with superior talent on his roster? Now how many times did DeBoer overachieve with inferior talent on his roster? I'm not seeing a whole lot of similarities.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:59 pm to 3down10
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He has improved every program he's gone to and shown he can do more with less.
Kelly has done that too.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:01 pm to 3down10
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They are stupid. These are the same people who thought Harsin was going to be great when he was hired.
I told them what was going to happen with Harsin from the day he was hired, and why. They don't give a shite about facts, they just want to believe whatever makes them feel better.
This is the way of the rant. And all posts will be anchored long before anything is proven.
The only thing dumber are Texas fans who think Sark is a better coach, and Alabama fans who still think Crimson Bozo is an insider rather than someone who plays them for attention and status by posting things they want to believe(you were all dumb 4 years ago, you're even dumber now). Hell, the guy has a 50/50 chance guessing random and I doubt his record is even above .500. I wonder if his real name is Jim Kramer.
Harsin made every team he coached worse, and Auburn was no exception. He took over a Chris Petersen Boise St team, and they got worse every single year. He also did it at Arkansas St after following Gus there.
DeBoer has the exact opposite history. 2 people have turned Washington from a 7 win average team to national championship contenders. One was Chris Petersen, and the other is DeBoer.
And for all you stupid Texas fans, Sark coached at Washington for 4 years and averaged 7 wins a year, earning him the nickname "7 win Sark". Even at Texas he averaged 7 wins a season until last year. Where he then goes to lose the playoff game to a team he couldn't crack 8 wins with, coached by DeBoer even while having a clear talent advantage.
I haven't seen this much fear and overcompensation from the rant in quite awhile. It's been quite entertaining to read.
Probably one of the best hires possible to make outside Kirby, and that obviously wasn't going to happen. Sure as hell don't want any of the coaches from the other SEC teams. Brian Kelly? Oh frick no. Sark? Terrible hire. That fat POS in Tennessee? I'd be ashamed. Kiffin maybe if he would grow up. Freeze maybe if not for his baggage.
Never change rant, I know you won't.
wrote a novel to say "frick off"
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:02 pm to HogPharmer
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How many people has DeBoer killed? To my knowledge, it is (at least) 1 less than Kelly. Does DeBoer like to dry hump and grind on 17 year old boys? Kelly does. How many times did Kelly underachieve with superior talent on his roster? Now how many times did DeBoer overachieve with inferior talent on his roster? I'm not seeing a whole lot of similarities.
I get that you're trying very hard to troll but none of that is actually true, if you're honest.
I'm happy to debate with you, if you can make honest arguments.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:02 pm to John Milner
quote:So he is Brian Kelly part two?
DeBoer just coached (FIFY) in the national title game.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:03 pm to HogPharmer
quote:And Arkansas has already lost to him twice
HogPharmer
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:10 pm to WeTheTide
It's not comparable at all, unless DeBoer can't recruit the South. He has some good recruiters on the defensive side of the ball. Don't know about offense except maybe one because it's almost all his guys from Washington.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:14 pm to WeTheTide
Maybe you should call your new coach DeBear.
It might give you miserable fricks some hope.
It might give you miserable fricks some hope.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 7:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Kelly has done that too.
I'm not saying he's a terrible coach, I'm saying I don't want him.
He was at a blue blood in Notre Dame for 11 years and I personally doubt those teams of his make the postseason championships if not for the Notre Dame name. Hell, in 2020 they lost to Clemson by 24 points in the ACC championship and still made the playoffs.
In post season games with a championship in play, he was outscored 103-31. He never won a single one of them, or even came close to winning one. Always outclassed and outcoached. And even had he won the the 2012/2013 Championship, it would have been taken away because their season and the following season was vacated for academic violations.
Notre Dame was more consistently relevant towards the end of his time, but I think a good bit of that is also because teams like USC, Stanford etc have been down and outside Clemson, their ACC schedule has been kind.
Just seems like a guy who always struggles against top teams.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 1/19/24 at 7:07 pm to 3down10
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I personally doubt those teams of his make the postseason championships if not for the Notre Dame name. Hell, in 2020 they lost to Clemson by 24 points in the ACC championship and still made the playoffs.
Who was a better option?
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In post season games with a championship in play, he was outscored 103-31. He never won a single one of them, or even came close to winning one. Always outclassed and outcoached. And even had he won the the 2012/2013 Championship, it would have been taken away because their season and the following season was vacated for academic violations.
The teams he faced in those games were a combined 41-1, it's not like other teams were beating them either.
2018 Clemson beat Saban just as bad as they did Kelly.
It's just interesting to see some Alabama fans bash BK when it's a very similar hire.
Same goes with LSU fans bashing DeBoer.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 7:10 pm to 3down10
Im it total agreement with you on the fact that Harsin is and was a complete inept idiot. You're preaching to the choir dude Lol You're also correct about not NEEDING a coach with southern ties, BUT it would be optimal. This guy is from North Dakota and has little clue how utterly insane EVERY SEC fanbase is. If you are going to replace the Legend of all legends in a state with the MOST intensely obsessed group of fans, you don't need a guy who is unfamiliar with the landscape. You keep trying to argue with Auburn fans about us being dumb enough to hire Harsin, but our point is that YOU were dumb enough to hire a guy with several of his weaknesses. What part of that isn't getting through. Harsin sucks and we know dudelololol
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 7:18 pm to WeTheTide
Neither Harsin nor DeBoer has significant ties to the SEC. That is a disadvantage for a head football coach at an SEC school.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 7:31 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Who was a better option?
Don't even remember honestly. Most likely a team with a tougher SoS and 1 more loss. Really most years it should just be 2 teams that should be there.
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The teams he faced in those games were a combined 41-1, it's not like other teams were beating them either.
2018 Clemson beat Saban just as bad as they did Kelly.
It's just interesting to see some Alabama fans bash BK when it's a very similar hire.
Same goes with LSU fans bashing DeBoer.
Yeah, the other teams were elite, his teams weren't. That's the point.
DeBoer has a playoff win, and he did it with a much less talented team. Texas has been pulling in top5 classes for years now. He's obviously coaching them up.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 7:33 pm to 3down10
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Yeah, the other teams were elite, his teams weren't. That's the point.
DeBoer has a playoff win, and he did it with a much less talented team. Texas has been pulling in top5 classes for years now. He's obviously coaching them up.
Are you claiming Texas was elite?
They had an absolutely tragic pass defense which is a perfect matchup for DeBoer.
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