re: Experts rank the SEC college towns

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You really need to do some research fella. The city of Auburn was established in 1839, only 20 years after Tuscaloosa. There wasn't a college there for another 20 years. The Civil War and Great Depression hit the area extremely hard and it didn't really recover until WW2 (as you can see from the big population jump between 1940 & 1950 posted above).

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And it was tiny and remained tiny until the University began growing in the 50's. Even in the earliest years Auburn relied on the University for its population.

Why is this offensive? It isn't a bad thing in the least.

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Texas ain't the Deep South.

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Are our blacks not good enough for you or something? Were we not part of the confederacy? Are we not below the Mason-Dixon line?

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I just don't quite understand why the idea that Auburn is more white and lilly clean than Tuscaloosa is such an irritant. YOU GUYS RUN AROUND CLAIMING THIS EXACT THING 24/7!

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Unfortunately we've got our own problems. My ambition is not to be as black or urban as Tuscaloosa, and although ghetto understandably has that connotation, my point was that traditionally Auburn has been less of a shitty area than Tuscaloosa and far more of a rural town.

I'm not looking to make Auburn into some bastion of diversity, I just didn't understand your original point, which seemed to be that Auburn was some fake or crafted city while Tuscaloosa was genuine. I just don't see that at all.

So you are saying Tuscaloosa is an uneducated, shithole because it has a lot of blacks? Not surprised you are a racist

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Texas ain't the Deep South.

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I'd draw a line up from Houston as far north as Texarkana. Draw that line east to Arkansas.

I'd say that rectangle of Texas is arguably part of the deep south.

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Could you not ruin a decent thread for once, please.

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Sounds like a challenge

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Unfortunately we've got our own problems. My ambition is not to be as black or urban as Tuscaloosa, and although ghetto understandably has that connotation, my point was that traditionally Auburn has been less of a shitty area than Tuscaloosa and far more of a rural town. I'm not looking to make Auburn into some bastion of diversity, I just didn't understand your original point, which seemed to be that Auburn was some fake or crafted city while Tuscaloosa was genuine. I just don't see that at all.

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No, not fake of created, just newer and with less old bones. That can be positive and negative. Tuscaloosa has some really neat old structures that have been revitalized (but for 50 years before that were just empty, ugly wastelands) but it also has some disgusting old areas that haven't been touched and are blighted.

Auburn has some cool new areas (and a few nice old ones too, like the area downtown). They aren't fake or crafted, but more of it is much newer and less old bones, like I said above.

Like you said, Auburn was historically a very rural town. Then, Auburn got much bigger, and so Auburn got built up very quickly. It isn't fake or crafted, it's just all kind of new and so it was built the way things were built in the mid to late 20th century.

Agree there, Fayetteville being #12 is just dumb. Especially with Oxford at #3.

Starkville is the worst town in tSEC