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re: Estimated Population in each P5 conference footprint.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:37 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:37 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
To be clear: The OP was about populations of footprint.
Based on this 2010 WSJ article, seems like you're right: lots of B1G fans in NYC. Those Penn State numbers are also high because even if you go to PSU Berks or PSU Erie, you count yourself as a Penn State alum (99,000 total with 47,000 on main campus).
"Six of the top 10-rated games in the New York market last season were Big Ten games while only one of the top 10 featured an SEC team."
"The alumni numbers may signal why college football isn't a priority in the city -- after all, traditional basketball mecca Georgetown has six times as many alumni in the area as Alabama, the No. 1 football team in the land."
Based on this 2010 WSJ article, seems like you're right: lots of B1G fans in NYC. Those Penn State numbers are also high because even if you go to PSU Berks or PSU Erie, you count yourself as a Penn State alum (99,000 total with 47,000 on main campus).
"Six of the top 10-rated games in the New York market last season were Big Ten games while only one of the top 10 featured an SEC team."
"The alumni numbers may signal why college football isn't a priority in the city -- after all, traditional basketball mecca Georgetown has six times as many alumni in the area as Alabama, the No. 1 football team in the land."
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 8:51 pm
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:39 pm to morriscat2
You’re welcome for not being below the Big 12.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:42 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
I'm sure it would all change dramatically if divied up by zip code.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:49 pm to Korin
Comparing the 1980 populations to 2018 populations of current footprint (ignoring the fact that the footprints we're the same)...
Percent change in population of footprint, 1980 - 2018
79% PAC (above average growth for all states)
68% SEC (thanks to FL, TX, and GA)
66% BIG12 (really all TX)
46% ACC
16% B1G
Original table as a reminder. And if B1G claims NY, that doesn't seem to help growth numbers...
Percent change in population of footprint, 1980 - 2018
79% PAC (above average growth for all states)
68% SEC (thanks to FL, TX, and GA)
66% BIG12 (really all TX)
46% ACC
16% B1G
Original table as a reminder. And if B1G claims NY, that doesn't seem to help growth numbers...
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:00 am to johnfredlsu
New York should be in Big10 footprint as every Big10 athletic event is televised in NYC and all cable networks there have the Big 10 network thanks to Rutgers and Penn State.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:02 am to morriscat2
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These are my estimates. I am sure if they are inaccurate you will let me know. Either way, the Big 12 lags.
Seems like they overperform per capita.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:14 pm to oman
Where the SEC has a tremendous advantage is in the percentage of its major tv markets that actually watch college football. For example, recent tv ratings show that the Birmingham tv market has more people who consistently watch college football than all of NYC. CBS is essentially getting the SEC's top game each week for free. The amount they pay under that outdated contract is pennies compared to what other conferences have recently signed for. When that tv deal expires, the SEC will blow everyone else out of the water in revenue.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:34 pm to East Coast Band
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ACC will be much larger than SEC. They have NY, PA, NC, VA, MA.
So Syracuse gets to claim NYC? That's BS. Penn State and Notre Dame and probably 20 others have a bigger following in NYC than Syracuse.
Same with PA. Penn State has more fans in Pittsburgh than Pitt and a lot more in the rest of Pennsylvania. Penn State should have at least 80% of the state.
Now I doubt the whole population compilation. They are splitting whole state populations evenly.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:42 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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Just my opinion on why the poll isn't accurate.
The "poll" isn't accurate because it's a census, not a poll. The only "flaws" are in the margin of error used for the US Census.
The OP just said population, he didn't say population of fans.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:47 pm to MedDawg
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They are splitting whole state populations evenly.
And what % is Texas really interested in aTm?
Florida in UF?
Correct, the ACC shouldn't get to "claim" all of certain states like PA and NY, and frankly GA, too.
To me the real proof is just in the TV ratings.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:51 pm to johnfredlsu
The area around college station is A&M country. It is like a small island in the pacific ocean.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:18 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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Lol, ok? So, new York is counted as an acc state bc of syracuse alone? Lol that's dumb. Same for the sec getting Texas when we all know there are way more big 12 fans in that state than A&m fans. List is shady. I promise you there are more big 10 fans in NY than acc fans.
There are lots and lots of ACC fans in the NYC metro area.
Notre Dame, Syracuse, UNC, UVA, and Duke all have some of their largest alumni chapters and core fanbase groups in the region.
The overall share of attention/spend for college sports is lower in the region, but of that share, it goes something like ACC then B1G then a big gap then SEC then another gap then Big XII and PAC 12.
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