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re: ESPN's best teams in the past 20 years
Posted on 7/27/18 at 8:15 am to Tigerman97
Posted on 7/27/18 at 8:15 am to Tigerman97
Melting over old games
Posted on 7/27/18 at 8:44 am to Solo Cam
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Also 2001 Miami should be #1
I think they probably had the most talent of any team but I wouldn't put 'em at #1. While they were dominant in a lot of their games, they were very beatable by lesser teams in a couple of games; Boston College and Virginia Tech both had 'em on the ropes and both blew it late in the fourth quarter, especially Va Tech. And, though not Miami's fault, they played probably the worst team to make a national championship game in the BCS/CFP era, 2001 Nebraska. That Nebraska team was the first college team to make a championship game without winning their conference or division (they were obliterated by Colorado in the last regular game of the season, 62-36). That was the only team Miami played that finished in the top 10 (the final AP poll had 'em at 8).
Posted on 7/27/18 at 8:56 am to Poncho and Lefty
I don't believe 2005 texas was the best team. They had the best performance in the Rose Bowl but they were not the overall best National Championship team of the BCS era. That would be Miami 2001. USC 2004 would be right behind that.
Alabama 2009 is correct. That was Saban's best team at Bama. This team could run, throw and had the best D in America. Also had Leigh Tiffin as kicker who was money in 2009.
I'm not convinced that LSU 2011 should be in there. Yes, I know who they beat, blah blah and they had a great defense but their offense was non existent in some games and was inconsistent all year. They didn't have a great TEAM. 2003 was LSU's best TEAM. If you are gonna include teams that DIDN'T win it all that conversation would start with 2009 Florida. That may be the best team, along with 1983 Nebraska, that I ever saw that didn't win it all.
People get caught up in "star power" of teams vs how good teams were. How effecient was the offense, how good was the D in all categories, how were 3rd down conversions, QB rating, number of 3 and outs. Those things make a great team. How exciting a team was, or how spectacular they were in one phase is a different argument. Bama 1992 had the best defense I've ever seen but would not sniff the greatest of all time TEAMS list.
Alabama 2009 is correct. That was Saban's best team at Bama. This team could run, throw and had the best D in America. Also had Leigh Tiffin as kicker who was money in 2009.
I'm not convinced that LSU 2011 should be in there. Yes, I know who they beat, blah blah and they had a great defense but their offense was non existent in some games and was inconsistent all year. They didn't have a great TEAM. 2003 was LSU's best TEAM. If you are gonna include teams that DIDN'T win it all that conversation would start with 2009 Florida. That may be the best team, along with 1983 Nebraska, that I ever saw that didn't win it all.
People get caught up in "star power" of teams vs how good teams were. How effecient was the offense, how good was the D in all categories, how were 3rd down conversions, QB rating, number of 3 and outs. Those things make a great team. How exciting a team was, or how spectacular they were in one phase is a different argument. Bama 1992 had the best defense I've ever seen but would not sniff the greatest of all time TEAMS list.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 8:56 am to ColoBama
Their Qb play sucked in 2011
21-0
21-0
Posted on 7/27/18 at 9:23 am to TouchdownTony
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If you are gonna include teams that DIDN'T win it all that conversation would start with 2009 Florida.
2001 Florida was better than 2009 Florida, IMO.
There are several team you could make a case for as the best that didn't win it all. 1998 Ohio State would be at or near the top of my list.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:13 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:Yeah. So LSU best Oklahoma in the actual national title and the USC beat Michigan in the rose bowl.
USC was the 2003 AP National Champion.
Surely you can admit that.
Media said USC was better than LSU even though nothing at all was proved on the field.
Solid call.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:20 pm to TouchdownTony
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This team could run, throw and had the best D in America.
That was the 2012 team. 2012 AJ is much better than 2009 McElroy. Better group of WRs too. OL was definitely the best in the nation as well.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:21 pm to Solo Cam
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Yeah. So LSU best Oklahoma in the actual national title and the USC beat Michigan in the rose bowl.
Media said USC was better than LSU even though nothing at all was proved on the field.
Solid call.
I’m not sure where at any point in time you got the idea I said USC was the more deserving team or anything along those lines.
I said USC is technically a National Champion because of the AP Poll, and 2011 LSU is not.
I’m not sure why this is confusing you.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:17 pm to VADawg
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2001 Florida was better than 2009 Florida, IMO.
That UT game
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1998 Ohio State would be at or near the top of my list.
Saban and sparty
Posted on 7/27/18 at 3:52 pm to DaronTexas
"Melting over old games"!
Sometimes, it's all some teams/fans have. NTTAWWT.
Sometimes, it's all some teams/fans have. NTTAWWT.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 5:01 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
If Auburn was better than FSU in 13 then y’all would have a ring, and not them...
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