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re: ESPN running with Cam/Cecil phone conversations

Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:40 pm to
In regards to Gene Chizik, how many coaches have survived a player getting paid like this?
Posted by PPBeastMode
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:40 pm to
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thats really REALLY doubtful unless auburn pulled him. sec/ncaa wont rule that quickly

they will since they have cold hard facts. The UNC-gate took forever because they have to ask players..etc
Posted by MCSquared16
Member since Jan 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:41 pm to
I just had to get in to say I just saw this and...



Holy shite AU. I really doubted this stuff was true but if these recordings are verified...:prayerssent:
Posted by aVatiger
Water
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Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:42 pm to
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If Newton is declared ineligible, which could happen in a matter of days


Does anybody really know the possibility of this happening?

Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:43 pm to
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they will since they have cold hard facts. The UNC-gate took forever because they have to ask players..etc
the only cold hard facts that matter is cash changing hands. recorded conversations saying this and that happened dont mean squat until money changed hands.

if they cant find a deposit slip or cash in a mattress and connect the proceeds from someone with a connection to auburn, no rules were broken.

sorry, but thats pretty much the way it is, regardless of what everyone wants to believe. the cash is the only proof.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:44 pm to
According to Joe Schads twitter.
quote:

Marvin Austin FB post: "I have gained so much respect for Gene Chizik... Ball out til you fall out... I feel your pain..."
Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:44 pm to
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Does anybody really know the possibility of this happening?
yes, extremely slim, so slim i wouldnt count on it at all. it COULD happen, but i'd say its remote at best.
Posted by PPBeastMode
Member since Sep 2010
2403 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:45 pm to
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the only cold hard facts that matter is cash changing hands. recorded conversations saying this and that happened dont mean squat until money changed hands.

if they cant find a deposit slip or cash in a mattress and connect the proceeds from someone with a connection to auburn, no rules were broken.

sorry, but thats pretty much the way it is, regardless of what everyone wants to believe. the cash is the only proof.

well since the FBI is doing the investigation, they can request deposit statement from his father
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:45 pm to
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tigerguy12


The chick in your avatar =



WOW
Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:46 pm to
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well since the FBI is doing the investigation, they can request deposit statement from his father
of course they can, but do you really think the FBI is going to move quickly?
Posted by MCSquared16
Member since Jan 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:47 pm to
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Ball out til you fall out


Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:48 pm to
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According to Joe Schads twitter.
quote:


Marvin Austin FB post: "I have gained so much respect for Gene Chizik... Ball out til you fall out... I feel your pain..."



What a great individual to get an "atta boy" from.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23267 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:48 pm to
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Posted by slacker130
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If Auburn has any reason to doubt Cam's eligibility, it is their responsibility to hold him out.


decision was made this summer, we're "All in" now.


pot committed.
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:49 pm to
But wouldn't the ncaa/sec look extremely irresponsible if something doesn't happen?

They almost have to do something

USC was one thing, there were allegations after bush went through. Now here is auburn, with all this shite on the table in the middle of the season..

Something has to happen
Posted by GM4UA
Mobile, AL
Member since Nov 2008
268 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:50 pm to
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the only cold hard facts that matter is cash changing hands. recorded conversations saying this and that happened dont mean squat until money changed hands.


Did you ever see a $200,000 money trail in the Albert Means' ordeal (receipts, etc)? Just saying. The NCAA can do whatever they want. They don't have to prove anything.
Posted by aVatiger
Water
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Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:52 pm to
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The NCAA can do whatever they want.


o rly?
Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:53 pm to
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Did you ever see a $200,000 money trail in the Albert Means' ordeal (receipts, etc)? Just saying. The NCAA can do whatever they want. They don't have to prove anything.
i cant speak on the means case since i dont know the details.
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2670 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:53 pm to
You think a guy dumb enough to call Miss St. and ask for money for his son is smart enough to hide a paper trail for 200k?

There was no proof of Means being paid, there was a secret witness that testified against Bama (phillip fulmer) and that was enough evidence for the infractions committee at the time.
This post was edited on 11/9/10 at 11:55 pm
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:56 pm to
You do realize that recruits or their families trying to extort money from a university is also against NCAA bylaws right?

You do realize that by asking for money outright they likely forfeited his amateur status right?

I mean shite, if a kid signs a napkin saying AFTER he graduates he's signing with an agent, he's ineligible than don't you think asking to be paid on tape counts just as badly and admitting on tape that the money paid was too much to allow you to go to that school?
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 11/9/10 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

You think a guy dumb enough to call Miss St. and ask for money for his son is smart enough to hide a paper trail for 200k?


O/U 50k in the freezer
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