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re: ESPN : Position U (BCS + CFP Era)

Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:35 am to
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:35 am to
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don't understand why Georgia beats out Alabama in linebackers.


Probowls
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:39 am to
RBs missing UGA.

CBS missing SC.

Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:39 am to
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5. LSU
Notable players: Odell Beckham Jr., Michael Clayton, Jarvis Landry

crazy they left out the most notable player, at least at the collegiate level, Josh Reed.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:42 am to
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Freddie Milons, Tyrone Prothro, and DJ Hall were all very good recievers



I'll give you Hall but Milons was a one hit wonder who was more famous for his persona and punt returns than as a receiver. In four years at Alabama he had about 1800 yards (along with 6 total TDs) receiving and never more than 750 yards in a single season.

Prothro is kind of a "best there never was" due to his injury. Truth be told, his career high for receiving yards in a season was 347 yards. Granted he almost matched that in his junior season through 5 games before his injury.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 10:45 am
Posted by MetryMauler
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:44 am to
There is no science to this discussion, but I disagree with the methodology the writer uses. Puts way too much weight on subjective things like all-american teams and Heisman trophies. That is why you see clear mistakes like Georgia RB too low, A&M QB too high, etc.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:00 am to
Wasn’t Justin Houston the highest paid player in the NFL for a while?

Also, it’s not just draft picks but all conference and all American sections where UGA has done pretty well (off the top of my head Boss Bailey, Dannell Ellerbe, Rennie Curran, Jarvis Jones, Justin Houston, Ogletree, Roquan Smith, Lorenzo Carter)
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:02 am to
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Puts way too much weight on subjective things like all-american teams and Heisman trophies.


This is really the crux of it. Out of Gurley, Chubb, Michel, and Knowshown only Knowshown made an All american roster and I think he’d be the last picked out of that group by anyone putting together a team
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:07 am to
List is shite. I don't see any MsState players on this list.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:16 am to
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don't understand why Georgia beats out Alabama in linebackers.
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Probowls



What Georgia linebackers made pro bowl 1998-present?

Bama's had 3...
Mosley - 4
Hightower - 1
DeMeco Ryans - 2
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:28 am to
Houston 4 x pro bowl 1 all pro
T Davis 3 pro bowl 1 all pro 1 man of the year
Kendrell Bell
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:32 am to
Thomas Davis - 3x
Justin Houston - 4x
Kendrell Bell - 1x
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:37 am to
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Also, it’s not just draft picks but all conference and all American sections where UGA has done pretty well


Bama's done pretty well too. I posted Bama's and UGA's consensus AA's from 1998 (start of BCS era). Bama has had 7 consensus AA's; Georgia 2.

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(off the top of my head Boss Bailey, Dannell Ellerbe, Rennie Curran, Jarvis Jones, Justin Houston, Ogletree, Roquan Smith, Lorenzo Carter)


Off the top of my head, DeMeco Ryans, Rolando McClain, Dont'a Hightower, Courtney Upshaw, CJ Mosley, Trey DePriest, Reggie Ragland, Reuben Foster, Rashaan Evans.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46423 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:44 am to
They don’t have to be consensus AAs and factor in varying levels of All SEC as well.

I think we can all agree their method is flawed in a big way but they’re not just looking at the highest achievers from a group (consensus AAs and pro bowlers) but also factoring in other categories meant to catch the middle pack players (problem is they’re awarding points based on certain levels of success that don’t actually correlate to the production on the field). For example, UGA is receiving more points for Knowshown being a consensus AA than any of Chubb, Michel, or Gurley being all conference which is absurd
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 11:46 am
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:47 am to
The reason the salty LSU fans never came is because they think the list must be joking.
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