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re: Eric Reid critical of LSU's lavish new locker room
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:00 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:00 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Notice that the college players since say 2000 going forward have a problem with just playing the game for a scholly like those from a 100 years. Why is that. F um.
So 100 years ago, CFB was generating millions? Lmao
Do you actually think before you post?
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:03 pm to jnethe1
Has he seen it? They have those cheap cup holder phone holder thingies. 
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:21 pm to jnethe1
A University is for Degrees.
Earn a 3.5 and then let's talk.
Eat some food, soak in the hot tub day after day, and train in our million-dollar gyms.
Otherwise, just play football as you agreed to.
Also, get a degree in literally "anything."
Grass Science.
Okra Literature.
Space English.
A University education is $16,000 a year for normal kids.
Get over yourselves.
Earn a 3.5 and then let's talk.
Eat some food, soak in the hot tub day after day, and train in our million-dollar gyms.
Otherwise, just play football as you agreed to.
Also, get a degree in literally "anything."
Grass Science.
Okra Literature.
Space English.
A University education is $16,000 a year for normal kids.
Get over yourselves.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:46 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Notice that the college players since say 2000 going forward have a problem with just playing the game for a scholly like those from a 100 years. Why is that. F um.
I doubt there were all that many scholarships given out way back when. However, plenty of players were paid for their services, even before the gazillion dollar industry we see today.
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In 1929, the Carnegie Foundation made headlines with a report, “American College Athletics,” which concluded that the scramble for players had “reached the proportions of nationwide commerce.” Of the 112 schools surveyed, 81 flouted NCAA recommendations with inducements to students ranging from open payrolls and disguised booster funds to no-show jobs at movie studios. Fans ignored the uproar, and two-thirds of the colleges mentioned told The New York Times that they planned no changes. In 1939, freshman players at the University of Pittsburgh went on strike because they were getting paid less than their upperclassman teammates.
Notice the line “fans ignored the uproar”. They didn't care. They didn't think there's anything noble or pure about people working for less compensation than what an open market might bring them.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:54 pm to YodaWithALightSaber
The part that makes me most upset about is the selfishness to be more than happy to take a paycheck and end all other scholarships. Also how do you choose the pay scale? Does the star qb at an sec school make the same as the 3rd string middle linebacker? What about schools that dont generate enough money to pay players? Do their football programs just end? If you feel like youre just being taken advantage of and the school in no way helps you out why dont you just get a job after high school, workout at the park and send your tape to nfl scouts of you playing said park football and enter the draft when your eligible by THEIR RULES.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:58 pm to jnethe1
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Eric Reid
Typical ex-LSU player.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:58 pm to jnethe1
If we are being honest, and that's not what being a fan is about, the money poured into kids playing a 3 hour game 12 times a year, is ungodly insane.
Stadiums, practice facilities, locker rooms, nutrition services, equipment, etc. It's enough money to feed people in 3rd world countries for years, and those things sit empty 95% of the year.
Stadiums, practice facilities, locker rooms, nutrition services, equipment, etc. It's enough money to feed people in 3rd world countries for years, and those things sit empty 95% of the year.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 3:11 pm to kywildcatfanone
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If we are being honest, and that's not what being a fan is about, the money poured into kids playing a 3 hour game 12 times a year, is ungodly insane.
Stadiums, practice facilities, locker rooms, nutrition services, equipment, etc. It's enough money to feed people in 3rd world countries for years, and those things sit empty 95% of the year.
Welcome to America, the Land of the Free (Enterprise).
I do agree that the spending is seems to be getting out of balance, but an economist with more data points would likely make us fools and say the opposite.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 4:12 pm to jnethe1
It’s called a scholarship.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 4:56 am to MaroonNation
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It’s called wage-fixing.
FIFY
Posted on 7/23/19 at 5:03 am to jj06
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So 100 years ago, CFB was generating millions?
Coincidentally, economist Andy Schwarz referenced a 1929 article from Cornell's newspaper last night, which referenced the Carnegie report referenced in The Atlantic article I referenced above:
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The whole business seems very funny. Where football is allowed to dominate, the players render services which have an enormous money equivalent. As everything else in the world is run, they are entitled to money payment for their services. But they must remain amateurs, according to a definition of “amateur” that applied when school games were played on vacant lots under the eye only of personal friends and small boys. Like our intramural sports. No wonder the system cracks and strains. The Carnagie report proves at vast statistical length that there is a frightful bulge when you try to jam a twenty-million-dollar industry into a vacant-lot ideology.
Wow, that surprises me. No wonder players were payed 90 years ago (and as recently as the mid-50s, I think). There was plenty of money to do so and the schools hadn't yet steadfastly agreed to economically exploit the players by fixing their compensation at artificial lows in order to better line the pockets of everyone else involved.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 6:50 am to jnethe1
I wrote a research paper about this in college. The benefits these young men and women get as scholarship athletes is staggering.
They're compensated very well for what they do. Now, if they can make money on their likeness, name, jersey sales, etc., then maybe there should be an account setup that's given to them after they leave the school.
Now, if they just can't wait, I say pay them, and then bill them for all the sh!te they get now for free...
They're compensated very well for what they do. Now, if they can make money on their likeness, name, jersey sales, etc., then maybe there should be an account setup that's given to them after they leave the school.
Now, if they just can't wait, I say pay them, and then bill them for all the sh!te they get now for free...
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 10:27 am
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:00 am to kmdawg17
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I wrote a paper about this in college. The benefits these young men and women get as scholarship athletes is staggering.
Well I never wrote a paper, but I went to LSU and I saw the many benefits they received. From the free clothes, the private tutoring sessions, the food, all on top of having no student debt at the end of it all..
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:13 am to kmdawg17
Some are paid well enough for what they bring to the table, but others actually make schools much more money. The socialist system in place forces them to maintain amateur status and be unable to make money as an individual, under the auspices of an NCAA that will punish them for trying to do so.
It's BS.
It's BS.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:15 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Eric Reid has made $15.9M in his 6 year NFL career. I wonder what portion of that he has used to assist the young men at his school or others.
The guy doesn't owe 1 cent to LSU. They already make millions of dollars off of the players and if you want to say the scholarship makes them even then fine, they're even. But he doesn't owe them a cent more. It's not "they're even if the guy doesn't make $15 million but if he does then he should give money back to the school". He's already done his part.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 7:15 am
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:19 am to YodaWithALightSaber
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Okra Literature
I kinda want to take that class
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:36 am to Montezuma
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The socialist system in place forces them to maintain amateur status and be unable to make money as an individual, under the auspices of an NCAA that will punish them for trying to do so.
I agree that the NCAA is BS as an organization.
I also think this is a perfect example of why socialism doesn't work...
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:41 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Notice that the college players since say 2000 going forward have a problem with just playing the game for a scholly
That’s not true at all.
If that was you wouldn’t have had pay for play scandals in the 70s
They just have a larger platform no days to voice their displeasure
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:42 am to tmjones2
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The guy doesn't owe 1 cent to LSU. They already make millions of dollars off of the players and if you want to say the scholarship makes them even then fine, they're even. But he doesn't owe them a cent more. It's not "they're even if the guy doesn't make $15 million but if he does then he should give money back to the school". He's already done his part.
So you are saying no one should tell him what to do with his money?
Apparently Eric Reid disagrees.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:44 am to tmjones2
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Eric Reid has made $15.9M in his 6 year NFL career. I wonder what portion of that he has used to assist the young men at his school or others.
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The guy doesn't owe 1 cent to LSU. They already make millions of dollars off of the players and if you want to say the scholarship makes them even then fine, they're even. But he doesn't owe them a cent more. It's not "they're even if the guy doesn't make $15 million but if he does then he should give money back to the school". He's already done his part.
Sure but he asked if he had given anything back to the players Reid is referring to. Like maybe the ones that dont go pro, giving them some support...
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