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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:27 pm to Landmass
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:27 pm to Landmass
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U of Tennessee was founded almost 100 years before U of Texas.
Matter of fact, U of Tennessee was founded before Texas was a state.
The university was founded prior to our own statehood. It's the oldest secular university west of the Eastern Continental Divide. Back when it was founded most universities and colleges were very much affiliated with religions and/or denominations of Christianity.
1794 - UT is founded.
1796 - Tennessee becomes a state.
1845 - Texas becomes a state.
1883 - UTex is founded.
Georgia* and Tennessee are the two oldest schools in the SEC and two of the oldest public universities in the country. UGA was founded in 1785 but didn't admit students until 1801.
Even so, it's important to remember that Texas is joining us. The SEC is not joining them. Unlike their current conference, the world doesn't revolve around them. As newer members they have to accept that entering our world means giving up a lot of things they took for granted in their old one. They sure as hell don't get to waltz in and demand that everyone else change for them.
Besides, it's not hard to say UTex, UTx, UTa or whatever else they choose to adopt.
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:30 pm to FluffyBunnyFeet
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Their insecurity over the question will still compel these threads though.
OP isn't a Tennessee fan. Pretty much every time this subject comes up, it's started by fans of different teams.
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:30 pm to Landmass
RA'd for sticky, should stay up for next few years
13 Charter members
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Kentucky - principle in founding
Louisiana State
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Sewanee aka University of the South - the Iron Men of lore
Tennessee - the only UT in the SEC
Tulane - the only TU in the SEC
Vanderbilt - principle in founding
Since the founding in the early 1930's the SEC has always had "The Six" tho in modern times (1980's forward) these are the current 6
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Georgia
Florida
Louisiana State
Based on the modern interpretation of the MNC (BCS and CFP) to even be considered you must have a modern BCS or CFP championship. Does not matter if you won in your former conference so at this point the following 6 additions are on EQUAL footing with ZERO
Arkansas
South Carolina - had history in the SoCon
Missouri
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Utx - austin
Folks in austin and Norman need to win here or just be part of the pack.
13 Charter members
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Kentucky - principle in founding
Louisiana State
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Sewanee aka University of the South - the Iron Men of lore
Tennessee - the only UT in the SEC
Tulane - the only TU in the SEC
Vanderbilt - principle in founding
Since the founding in the early 1930's the SEC has always had "The Six" tho in modern times (1980's forward) these are the current 6
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Georgia
Florida
Louisiana State
Based on the modern interpretation of the MNC (BCS and CFP) to even be considered you must have a modern BCS or CFP championship. Does not matter if you won in your former conference so at this point the following 6 additions are on EQUAL footing with ZERO
Arkansas
South Carolina - had history in the SoCon
Missouri
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Utx - austin
Folks in austin and Norman need to win here or just be part of the pack.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:34 pm to Cheese Grits
They're joining a conference that was quite literally founded in Knoxville, TN. They can't possibly be surprised by any of this. 
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:40 pm to FluffyBunnyFeet
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Any man who must say "I am the king" is no true king.
You are not very well informed, this man said "I am the king" and pretty sure nobody thought otherwise.
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Same goes for this insistence on who the "real" UT is.
No, not really. This is the SEC, Vols are Charter member, you are not. If you become part of the SEC, UT will always be Tennessee and TU will always be Tulane. Who cares who trademarked UT first, in this conference, austin is not Knoxville, and never will be.
FWIW
Hound Dog > nutless cow
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:46 pm to Prof
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Even so, it's important to remember that Texas is joining us. The SEC is not joining them. Unlike their current conference, the world doesn't revolve around them. As newer members they have to accept that entering our world means giving up a lot of things they took for granted in their old one. They sure as hell don't get to waltz in and demand that everyone else change for them.
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:49 pm to Buster83
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Tulane is not really relevant to the SEC.
You are an idiot.
Tulane stadium was recognized across the USA and their early success helped gain attention for Southern football outside the South. That would be like saying University of Chicago was not really relevant to the B1G. Both schools chose academics over continued football success and should be respected for this choice. If Tulane does not turn down their Rose Bowl invitation, Alabama football probably dies before it is born.
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They have not been members since before most people on this board were born
Sewanee is even older but the "Iron Men" is the core of what this conference became. As a fan of a school that hypes traditions you should respect others who actually did more with less. If Centre does not beat Harvard you probably never get your "12th man" so just be quiet when adults are speaking and respect what they did to allow you to have a voice now.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:54 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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UT = Texas for most of the country
Who give a crap about the rest of the country. This is the SEC footprint so SEC = University of Tennessee.
UT
Uta
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:58 pm to Cheese Grits
Does it really matter? People will use UT to refer to both schools. Get used to it.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:08 pm to BurntOrangeMan
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Which UT is historically better?
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Football
Tennessee > Uta
(6) = Tennessee (1938 - 1998, from 3 different coaches)
(4) = austin (1963 - 2005, from 2 different coaches)
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Basketball
Tennessee > Uta
Both M and W
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Baseball
Uta > Tennessee (tho Vols are Life Champions, Dores run baseball in TN)
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Academics
Without the PUF, could be Tennessee. Count your blessings and be humble when geography gives you a leg up
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Alumni
Uta get a plus with the Doonebury guy but that is well offset with huge negatives for McConathay
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Endowment
Again, without the PUF the folks in austin would just be another state school.
Clearly you need to quit drinking that Burnt Orange Koolaid and listening to Chimp Brown.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:09 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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People will use UT to refer to both schools.
Doubtful
Just because you want to believe Uta poops ice cream does not mean your new conference mates will eat it.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:10 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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Does it really matter? People will use UT to refer to both schools. Get used to it.
Shut up, newb. Seniority matters and UT means University of Tennessee in this conference.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:13 pm to Lolathon234
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Remember the Alamo, bitch.
I prefer to remember the Goliad Massacre, bitch.
(FWIW, without Tennessee - and other SEC states - no Alamo)
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:20 pm to 4th and 1
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Shut up, newb. Seniority matters and UT means University of Tennessee in this conference.
If UT didn’t meant Texas to the Aggies, they wouldn’t have invented the tu pet name to cope. Stop simping and trying to be one of the gang. You’re just as much an outsider as us.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:36 pm to Cheese Grits
quote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHA There is literally no poll that would rank Tennessee football as more successful than Texas
Tennessee > Uta
(6) = Tennessee (1938 - 1998, from 3 different coaches)
(4) = austin (1963 - 2005, from 2 different coaches)
quote:Hasn't the mens team never even been to the final four? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Tennessee > Uta
Both M and W
quote:Dude... you know this one isn't even close. This is getting embarrassing for you.
Without the PUF, could be Tennessee. Count your blessings and be humble when geography gives you a leg up
quote:Uh.... the PUF makes up for an entire endowment that has almost surpassed Harvard's?
Again, without the PUF the folks in austin would just be another state school
Holy shite, grandpa. You are really REALLY bad at this.
Oh wait, you're the same guy that thought WVU and Baylor were the exact same school
quote:Clearly you need life alert, because you've fallen and bumped your head again, gramps
Clearly you need to quit drinking that Burnt Orange Koolaid and listening to Chimp Brown.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:37 pm to Cheese Grits
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Tennessee > Uta
(6) = Tennessee (1938 - 1998, from 3 different coaches)
(4) = austin (1963 - 2005, from 2 different coaches)
Claimed mythical natties?
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:48 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
By his metric, Princeton is a better football program than Alabama and Minnesota is a better football program than Georgia
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:58 pm to XWing atAliciousness
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HAHAHAHA
Clearly you can not comprehend 3rd grade math
6 > 4
3 > 2
Neyland > DKR
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Hasn't the mens team never even been to the final four?
UT MCBB = 0 Final Fours, 1 Elite Eight, 8 Sweet Sixteens
Uta MCBB = 3 Final fours, 7 Elite Eight, 10 Sweet Sixteens
Neither have a Natty, and that its the measuring stick in this conference. Also, several counted for Uta were from the WWII era.
UT WCBB = 8 National Champions, 5 Runner Up, 18 Final Fours
Uta WCBB = 1 National Championship, 0 Runner Up, 3 Final Fours
Again, did you even go to high school much less college?
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Dude... you know this one isn't even close.
That was my point, the PUF put you well ahead. Aside from poor math skills your reading comprehension is even worse.
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This is getting embarrassing for you.
Can you read? Your lack of education is embarrassing. I am not embarrassed at all about what I wrote. your sad attempt at deflection is the embarrassment.
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Clearly you need life alert, because you've fallen and bumped your head again, gramps
Oh my, what a sick burn. Do they have a Village Idiot in your home town because clearly you could do well in competition with snappy comebacks like that.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 7:31 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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Does it really matter? People will use UT to refer to both schools. Get used to it.
No they won't. We will either refer to you as Texas or simply "the cows."
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