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re: Educating the FSU bandwagoners

Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75814 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:38 pm to
you're using Clemson's rank after they lost. You think Oregon state will be ranked if they lose to Oregon? how high to you think UCLA will be?

SOS my arse
Posted by BamaFatigue
Oregun
Member since Oct 2013
285 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:40 pm to
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you're using Clemson's rank after they lost. You think Oregon state will be ranked if they lose to Oregon? how high to you think UCLA will be?
I included Washington not being ranked as well, though they were 16 at the time.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8780 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:41 pm to
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You do realize that I said FSU should be ranked ahead of Oregon, right? Most BSC prognosticators do have Oregon ahead of you once our schedule catches up in the computers. There really is no argument. Oregon goes if they win out. Right now FSU deserves to be ahead.


Pretty much this. It would certainly garner a lot of argument if FSU, Oregon and Alabama all ended up unbeaten.

However, looking at the first BCS standings the only far fetched thing that, right or wrong, could prevent an Oregon vs Alabama final would be a ton of upsets in the PAC12 with Oregon playing many close games while FSU beats everyone else they play like they did Clemson.

Not likely.


You only have to look at the BCS rankings now when FSU easily has the best win but is still only ahead of Oregon because of Missouri creating a gap in the computer points.

Posted by BrooksnDunn
Daphne, AL
Member since Nov 2009
755 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:41 pm to
I say we get to use UFs ranking before they lost to LSU.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13140 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:42 pm to
I think it would be an absolute fricking travesty if FSU were left out if they go undefeated. However, it's hard to say that you would go if Oregon and BAMA were undefeated. We are still ahead in the human polls even though you have a more convincing resume. Oregon won't drop in the human polls if they keep winning and they will significantly gain in the computers.

It sucks and thank goodness we have a playoff.
Posted by BamaFatigue
Oregun
Member since Oct 2013
285 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:46 pm to
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I think it would be an absolute fricking travesty if FSU were left out if they go undefeated.
No travesty. They would make a good showing in another bowl but not in the big one if all three of these teams win out. It wouldn't be a travesty considering the last 4 years Bama and Oregon have consistently been the best teams in CFB. Bama with 3 of 4 titles and Oregon in 4 straight BCS bowl games. FSU doesn't have the same 4 year resume.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:49 pm to
Say what you want. FSU is for real. They held a good offense to 14 points. 7 of which came on garbage time.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13140 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:49 pm to
Any team from an AQ conference outside of the Big 10 right now has a legit gripe if they go undefeated. It's been a full decade since 3 teams deserved to be in the MNC and something tells me this will all sort itself out anyway.
Posted by BrooksnDunn
Daphne, AL
Member since Nov 2009
755 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:49 pm to
Why stop at 4 years? Let's make it 24 years.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13140 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:53 pm to
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Say what you want. FSU is for real. They held a good offense to 14 points. 7 of which came on garbage time.


Anybody that pays attention knows that winning at Clemson is a big deal. To do it the way they did was impressive. I don't know why the struggles with BC but at the same time Oregon always struggles with WAZZU. Intra-conference games take on a life of their own.
Posted by PrideOfTheSouthland
Gateway to the South
Member since Nov 2010
1778 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:54 pm to
This will sort itself out in 3 weeks, in not, certainly by the end of the year.
Oregon has UCLA & Stanford if they survive those that will impress the doubters.
FSU takes care of Miami & avoids their annual let down game, they're good.
After that they both have conference championships too.
I believe it's unlikely both teams will survive the stretch without a loss.
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:56 pm to
sorry but LSU has been the second best program more so than oregon...they have just had to play bama every year while the ducks run scores up to influence voters...that conference is a joke besides standford.

oh and oregon still manages to choke one away every year they shouldnt in that weak arse conference
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 8:57 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:57 pm to
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It's been a full decade since 3 teams deserved to be in the MNC


Have you forgotten 2011?
Posted by BrooksnDunn
Daphne, AL
Member since Nov 2009
755 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:58 pm to
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Struggles with BC
. Bc scores 14 points in garbage time and we still win by 2 TDs. You and I have different definitions of a struggle.
Posted by BrooksnDunn
Daphne, AL
Member since Nov 2009
755 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:00 pm to
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LSU has been the second best


This.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13140 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:03 pm to
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Bc scores 14 points in garbage time and we still win by 2 TDs. You and I have different definitions of a struggle.


It was a 10 point game going into the fourth and a 7 point game going into the half. Again, Oregon was up by 13 at half and I said we struggled. I just saw USC destroy them but it's no thing.
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
13200 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:03 pm to
Why didn't you reply to Pride's post?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29142 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:04 pm to
FSU rules. Oregon drools!
Posted by KurtGoBang1
Member since Dec 2012
947 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:26 pm to
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BamaFatigue


You're a dumb frick. Oregon is the 2nd best program over the last 4 years? What happened in those four years when you played the actual 2nd best program in the country head to head at a neutral site? IIRC, you got fricking raped. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27847 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:49 pm to
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I don't think Clemson is much better than Washington.



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