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re: Ed Orgeron covered up rape as three more women come forward against LSU.

Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by dkreller
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:23 pm to
So when it comes to rape allegations the comparison goes something like this:

Baylor >> Alabama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LSU
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:24 pm to
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Your thread title suggests there's something new to add to the situation.



There is. Two women were involved in the earlier allegations. Three more have come forward. Basic math.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93662 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:27 pm to
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Maybe Willy T can make a nice graphic with the counts.

Here's the info to put in it...
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It's believed there were at least 125 cases of sexual assault or harassment at Baylor -- and possibly many more -- since 2011. 

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Former Title IX coordinator Patty Crawford, who oversaw all sex assault investigations from 2014 to 2016, estimated the actual number of cases may be higher.

In her two years alone, she said, "hundreds" of women came forward with stories of rape, stalking, harassment or assault

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Baylor regents have said that at least 19 football players have been accused of sexual or physical assault, including four alleged gang rapes, since 2011. (Article was written in 2016)

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But an explosive lawsuit filed in January alleged that the number was far higher. Based on investigation by lawyers, the suit claimed that 31 Baylor football players committed at least 52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, between 2011 and 2014.

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In response to libel lawsuits, school officials released the most detailed account yet in February. 

That account, which came in a court filing, included damning text messages between former head football coach Art Briles and other athletics officials. The texts showed that Briles and others had tried to keep misconduct by football players hidden, creating what the filing called a "see-no-evil, report-no-evil" culture.

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Football coaches and staff “conducted their own untrained internal inquiries, outside of policy, which improperly discredited complainants and denied them the right to a fair, impartial and informed investigation.”

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In some cases, including reports of a sexual assault by multiple football players, athletic department and football officials knowingly did not report sexual violence to an administrator outside the department. Football coaches or staff members “met directly with a complainant and/or a parent of a complainant and did not report the misconduct.

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The football program employed a “separate system of internal discipline,” which reinforced the perception that “rules applicable to other students are not applicable to football players.” The separate system protected football players from standard consequences and placed students at the risk future misconduct.

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Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:29 pm to
Thanks Wally
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:29 pm to
Damn. That’s horrible
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:30 pm to
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If true, he should be fired immediately.


Absolutely. That shite goes beyond football loyalty.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:31 pm to
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In this country, luckily you still have to have proof.


Very true. But in a civil suit the standard of proof is lower
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46392 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:32 pm to
LSU is the new Baylor
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93662 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:33 pm to
Yep. People forget just how bad it was.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21305 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:33 pm to
Not that this absolves him but this is not new information. The allegations about orgeron saying that were posted here and publicly over a year ago.

He even says that in the followup tweet.
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:33 pm to
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There is. Two women were involved in the earlier allegations. Three more have come forward. Basic math.



That's a lot of rapes for one coach to deal with.
LSU probably should give O a raise for having to deal with it all the time on top of coaching a 5 win football team.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:47 pm to
Hang him and put his body on display.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12529 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:51 pm to
Don't worry, corndogs. I'm sure everything will be just fine.

Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29665 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:54 pm to
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If true, he should be fired immediately.
unfortunately, this is correct

He should also not receive the balance of his contract or any type of severance
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52441 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:56 pm to
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There is. Two women were involved in the earlier allegations. Three more have come forward. Basic math.


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That's a lot of rapes for one coach to deal with.
LSU probably should give O a raise for having to deal with it all the time on top of coaching a 5 win football team.


The lawsuit is a Title IX lawsuit against LSU as a whole, the new women don't necessarily have anything to with O or the football team.

In terms of the player's girlfriend allegedly being raped by Guice, the player has changed his story from the original USA Today article to his account in the lawsuit which is interesting.

He previously said he didn't know how O knew about the rape and "thought" O knew it wasn't consensual, now the player claims he told O about the rape.

ETA: The lawsuit claims O didn't properly report a rape although the actual rape had happened a year before ahd the lawsuit itself acknowledges that O's superiors in the athletic department already knew about the allegations.

Seems they're throwing O's name in for the clicks.

This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 5:02 pm
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21866 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by Herman
PRAIRIEVILLE, La
Member since Feb 2018
669 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 5:05 pm to
Old news. Nothing new. Good try
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 5:09 pm to
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The lawsuit alleges Ed Orgeron was told by a former LSU football player that Derrius Guice raped his girlfriend, Ashlyn Robertson, and Orgeron did not report it.


If true, he should be fired immediately.


Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14776 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 5:11 pm to
Damn I thought we were the classless ones
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