re: Ed Orgeron comments on the perceptions of racism at Ole Miss

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"I think that stigma is always going to stay with them,"

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Ogre understands lasting stigma. The stigma of him being a woman abusing alcoholic is still there, as is his stigma of being an embarrassing loser. 2019 didn’t t allow I’m to shake these stigma’s because he had almost zero to do with LSU winning.

I did make a mistake - I meant the kid from Ferguson, MO

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I don't know if it has any relevance whatsoever today, it may not.

I'm just pointing out that Ole Miss proudly and openly flaunted it a lot longer than other southern schools did.

In the late 90's, they were still waving confederate flags in the stadium.
it's only been about a decade that the band stopped playing Dixie.

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Says a fan of a team whose name is a proud reference to a Civil War regiment, the Louisiana Tigers, who were said to have fought like tigers in the Battle of The Shenandoah Valley.

There's nothing wrong with that, until you want to start getting preachy and admonishing Ole Miss fans and coming off like a bleeding, massive, sucking hypocrite.

And please, Mr. Preacher, let's not forget that to this day many LSU fans still fly the LSU purple and gold battle flag at games, which is a modified version of the Confederate Naval Jack.

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Says a fan of a team whose name is a proud reference to a Civil War regiment, the Louisiana Tigers, who were said to have fought like tigers in the Battle of The Shenandoah Valley.

There's nothing wrong with that, until you want to start getting preachy and admonishing Ole Miss fans and coming off like a bleeding, massive, sucking hypocrite.

And please, Mr. Preacher, let's not forget that to this day many LSU fans still fly the LSU purple and gold battle flag at games, which is a modified version of the Confederate Naval Jack.

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Okay then, then answer these three questions:

1) When was the last time a good amount of a crowd at Tiger Stadium for an LSU waved Confederate Flags?

- And before you even try to say it, the Purple and Gold Confederate flag was only sparingly seen. LSU actively asked fans not to bring those flags. And even then, you would only see a few of them in the tailgate lots.

Ole Miss was still proudly waving the actual Confederate Flag in the stands at football games up until the early 2000's. And until the late 1990s, when it was hurting recruiting, Ole Miss proudly supported it.

2) When was the last time an LSU coach had to beg to the fan base to stop bringing the Confederate Flag to games?

- Tommy Tuberville throughout his tenure, but especially in 1997 was begging Ole Miss fans not to bring the Confederate Flag. Ole Miss fans for the most part didn't care.

3) When was the last time LSU had a Confederate General as their mascot?

- Oh, that's right, NEVER! Ole Miss didn't even try to hide that Colonel Reb was essentially Robert E. Lee.

4) When was the last time LSU played a love song to the Confederacy?

- Again, that's right, NEVER! Ole Miss played "Dixie" up through 2009.

Add to all this, to this day, the amount of LSU fans who fly the Purple and Gold Confederate flag is DWARFED by the amount of Ole Miss fans who still fly either the Confederate flag, the Ole Miss Confederate flag or the old State of Mississippi flag with the Confederate flag in the corner.

Look, I agree with you that the racism argument against Ole Miss is pathetic now in 2026. And in the NIL era, I also think it has very little relevance. Players nowadays don't care about it. Jim Crow laws and the Civil Rights movement was almost 60 years ago at this point. It's no more relevant to them than World War I or World War II is to the U.S. as a while.

But don't deny that Ole Miss wasn't drug into the 21st century and the post Civil Rights era kicking and screaming. They absolutely were.

Ole Miss proudly and openly embraced Confederate imagery more than any other SEC school. It's not even close and you can't deny that.

Schools like LSU and Alabama have their past too, every southern university was. But at LSU and Alabama, the mascot was never a Confederate General. At LSU and Alabama, you never had 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 fans at games waving the actual Confederate Battle Flag. That routinely happened at Ole Miss through the 1980s and into the early 1990s. At LSU and Alabama, the football head coach never had to plead to his own fan base to not fly the Confederate flag to help recruiting. Tommy Tubberville did while at Ole Miss and it was probably one of the reasons he ended up leaving for Auburn.

And yes, I applaud Ole Miss for banning some imagery and trying to get a lot of it out of the football program and university as a whole. But Ole Miss absolutely embraced confederate imagery and racism more than any other SEC school.

Excellent post. My take as a southerner whose Alabama family goes back to Fort Mims and earlier, is that racism is the natural order of things in the world. Humans are territorial, carnivores, hunters and gatherers. We protect our turf with a vengeance.

The South was protecting their turf. Slavery to a southerner was not what the civil war was about. It was the catalyst that set it in motion but states rights and sovereignty was the issue.

We southerners have endured decades of redicule and scorn for this position.

Ole Miss represents the last bastion of that fervor of southern pride which was lost after Lee”s surrender. I say if a black youth wants to play football for Ole Miss in spite of everything he knows, who am I to criticize the students for what they do.

A vast majority of southerners have strived to shake off the ugliness of slavery and oppression imposed on the black people of that time and even afterwards under Jim Crow.

Lane used this old stain on Ole Miss to try and get advantage in recruiting. To my knowledge Kiffins family is not southern and therefore has no emotional connection.

Kiffin is a scumbag or what my ancestor’s would call a carpetbagger . LSU can’t whitewash the stain he has brought to LSU.

I suggest the Ole Miss people continued to prove they can be inclusive people and welcome all.

I hope Ole Miss stomps the Tigers this year.

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Registered on: 5/11/2026

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