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re: Early look at the SEC West for 2010....
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:00 pm to woopiginaustin
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:00 pm to woopiginaustin
I just don't understand claiming co-titles in division races, even if the SEC "recognizes them". Alabama doesn't claim the 2002 SEC West title, even though we were the outright winner.
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Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:02 pm to CapstoneGrad06
You claim plenty of other things that you shouldn't though 
But I agree
But I agree
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:02 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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I just don't understand claiming co-titles in division races, even if the SEC "recognizes them". Alabama doesn't claim the 2002 SEC West title, even though we were the outright winner.
There is a difference between two teams tying for the title and having NCAA sanctions not allowing you to win.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:03 pm to Duke
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Link?
Phil Steele did.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:04 pm to woopiginaustin
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If Arkansas wins or ties the West in 2010, it will be their 5th time doing it in 19 years. That would be a hair more than once every 4 years. How many times has Ole Miss done this since 1992? In other words, Arkansas has reason to believe landing the #1 spot in the West is feasible. We've done it 4 times with far less talent, far weaker coaching and a much tougher schedule. Ole Miss, not so much.
Ole Miss was also a Top 5-10 preseason team in '09 and a heavy favorite to win the West (8 of 12 pubs posted last week had picked Ole Miss). Arkansas' highest pre-season ranking thus far is #14, with most being between #18-#24, with no one picking Arkansas to win shite.
Five times in 19 years is nothing to be proud of,first off. Now on to this upcoming season. Arkansas could easily start off the season 2-2 (0-2) before their open week. But, more realistically y'all will be 3-1 (1-1) . Don't sleep on aTm in Arlington because with that piss poor defense that suits up for Arkansas y'all could easily lose (Arkansas allowed nearly 400 yards of total offense last year).
To sim it up quickly, I don't believe the hype in Arkansas or Mallet for that matter. Y'all will have a chance to prove me wrong, but i don't that will happen.
Arkansas goes 9-3 at best in the regular season.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:04 pm to CapstoneGrad06
That equals "heavy favorite"?
I mean didn't they have a poll at the SEC media day? If I remember right, Ole Miss was third.
I mean didn't they have a poll at the SEC media day? If I remember right, Ole Miss was third.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:05 pm to woopiginaustin
I tallied the votes assigning 6 points for a 1st place vote, 5 points for a 2nd place vote, 4 points for a 3rd place vote, and so on.
The Rant predicts:
1) Bama--Clear Favorite (179 points)
2) Arkansas--Dead heat w/ LSU (143 points)
3) LSU--Dead Heat w/ Ark (139 ponts)
4) Auburn--(109 points)
5) Miss St.--Dead heat w/OM (54 points)
6) Ole Miss--Dead heat w/MS (52 points)
The Rant predicts:
1) Bama--Clear Favorite (179 points)
2) Arkansas--Dead heat w/ LSU (143 points)
3) LSU--Dead Heat w/ Ark (139 ponts)
4) Auburn--(109 points)
5) Miss St.--Dead heat w/OM (54 points)
6) Ole Miss--Dead heat w/MS (52 points)
This post was edited on 5/8/10 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:06 pm to Duke
There sure as hell was a lot of smack talk from Ole Miss fans this time last year. The entire summer was full of it.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:09 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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There sure as hell was a lot of smack talk from Ole Miss fans this time last year. The entire summer was full of it.
This year will be no different...
Bama
Arky
AU
LSU
MSU
OM
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:11 pm to CapstoneGrad06
1) I'm on a Blackberry so searching isn't easy. The thread was last week. There was no shortage of picks for Ole Miss
2) If I were '09 Ole Miss, I too would have predicted a 1st place finish. Arkansas in '10, well, unless you're 12 or a Hogville retard, you shouldn't pick us. God knows no one else will
3) I'm not claiming co-titles. In context, I was saying we've won or tied 4 times with much tougher schedules, far less talent and bad coaching.
I personally predict 9 pre-bowl wins and a 2nd place finish.
2) If I were '09 Ole Miss, I too would have predicted a 1st place finish. Arkansas in '10, well, unless you're 12 or a Hogville retard, you shouldn't pick us. God knows no one else will
3) I'm not claiming co-titles. In context, I was saying we've won or tied 4 times with much tougher schedules, far less talent and bad coaching.
I personally predict 9 pre-bowl wins and a 2nd place finish.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:12 pm to sugatowng
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This year will be no different...
Bama
Arky
AU
LSU
MSU
OM
Yes it will, because the Arkansas fans have taken the place for Ole Miss this summer.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:14 pm to Emilio7
Emilio, can you give me an SEC Rant Hog poster picking Arkansas to win the West? Surely you have a long list and not some random kid with a computer.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:15 pm to woopiginaustin
And FWIW, I'm not saying Arkansas is going to be a bad team. Quite the opposite. Nine or ten wins. I just don't understand why anyone would make preseason predictions for anyone other than Alabama to win the West. Alabama for be the consensus number one to open the season. LSU would be the next highest ranked team to open to the season, at 17-20.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:17 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Capstone, come August I'm not too sure that LSU will be ranked higher than Arkansas in the 2 or 3 polls of significance.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:23 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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And FWIW, I'm not saying Arkansas is going to be a bad team. Quite the opposite. Nine or ten wins. I just don't understand why anyone would make preseason predictions for anyone other than Alabama to win the West. Alabama for be the consensus number one to open the season. LSU would be the next highest ranked team to open to the season, at 17-20.
FWIW Just about everyone picked Bama to win the west. Did you look at the thread?
FWIW Most so called college football experts or analyst have Arkansas ranked somewhere in the top 20. (Haven't paid much attention to where they are predicting LSU)
I don't think it would be too big of a reach to predict LSU or Arkansas to be a surprise in the west. The west will be extremely competitive this year.
Auburn--I think is still a year away.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:25 pm to Duke
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No one.....read NO ONE said OM was supposed to win the West. Everyone predicted Bama to win it.
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Holy shite, retard, do a google search. These are from just the first 5 pages. I'm blown away at how little some people know about their own conference, let alone their own team. Did you even pay attention last off season? I especially love all the comments about Snead being so great, that made me lmao at him and at you.
Phil Steele: Ole Miss, Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State
Sporting News: Ole Miss, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, Mississippi State
Associated Sports Content: “Ole Miss is the only team in the SEC with a great quarterback not named Tebow. Last season Ole Miss defeated Florida and Texas Tech. In 2009 Ole Miss plays Alabama and LSU at home.”
(Ole Miss, Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State)
Georgia Bulldog Journal: I think a focused and jacked up Ole Miss team will beat both Alabama and LSU at home to lock up the West title, but I believe their foucs will waver and they will slip up against either a dark horse Arkansas team or Tennessee at home to keep them from an undefeated season(probably Arkansas).
(Ole Miss, Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State)
Scout.com Barrett Sallee: The Rebels are actually the safest pick to win the division. They get a beneficial SEC schedule, with games vs. LSU, Alabama and Arkansas at home, and Florida and Georgia not on the schedule at all. With a stout defense led by DE Greg Hardy and a the Jevan Snead-led offense that averaged 32 points per game last season, the Rebels will make it to Atlanta for the first time ever.
(Ole Miss, LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State)
Maddux Sports: The Rebels of Old Miss don’t have to play the Florida Gators. That is a big plus. Additionally, the QB spot is manned by topnotch player Jevan Snead. The multitalented Dexter McCluster excels at running back and wide receiver. He is the team’s ultimate go-to guy. The offensive and defensive lines are not as strong as they could be and that means that a few players will need to step up. Nine wins look certain for this team but they could post 10 or 11.
(Ole Miss, LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State)
Weekly College Football: Ole Miss was the only team that managed to take down the Florida Gators last season.Ole Miss was last in passing defense last season, and they need to improve in this area in order to finish first in the SEC West this season. Ole Miss has LSU and Alabama at home this season and are well-poised to make a run at the West title.
(Ole Miss, LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State)
Brian Hendrickson: Sure, history says the Rebels are headed for a letdown. After all, even Eli Manning couldn’t lead them to an SEC title. But they have one thing going for them: Fewer questions to answer than any other SEC West team.
(Ole Miss, LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State)
Bryan Flynn: Now this season is one of the best chances Ole Miss has at winning the West since Eli Manning left. Ole Miss looks to have the fewest questions heading into this season. The offense returns its two best players in Jevan Snead and Dexter McCluster. The main offensive question is, can the Rebels find a running game?
(Ole Miss, LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State)
Touthouse Sports Wagering: The Rebels host LSU and that’s the biggest reason they are picked first. This is a very good team led by an explosive offense and an opportunistic defense. They face Memphis on the road, SE Louisiana at home, along with Northern Arizona and UAB at home. There’s no reason why they can’t be 4-0 in their non-conference schedule and considering they miss Florida and Georgia, this could be a very special season.
(Ole Miss, LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State)
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:26 pm to theenemy
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FWIW Just about everyone picked Bama to win the west. Did you look at the thread?
I'm not talking about this thread. Hog boards.
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FWIW Most so called college football experts or analyst have Arkansas ranked somewhere in the top 20. (Haven't paid much attention to where they are predicting LSU)
Athlon has began realeasing their rankings. LSU was 23, I believe.
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:34 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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FWIW Just about everyone picked Bama to win the west. Did you look at the thread?
I'm not talking about this thread. Hog boards.
I would bet money posters on the rant and auburn boards are also picking their respective teams to win the west...I'm not saying Arkansas wins the west but it wouldn't be an outrageous pick...need a little luck IMO
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:37 pm to NicoBlues
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How do arky fans put themselves ahead of a team that beat them last year, has waaaaay more depth and talent than them, and i see the coaching excuses but we have new position coaches in Billy G., frank w, and Steve e.
you won in OT in large part because Arkansas has a kicker who can't make a FG outside of 25. That "win" doesn't say a whole lot about LSU being such a superior team.
We, too, have new position coaches with Klinekis on the OL and Caldwell on the DL. those guys should help the running game and the defense quite a bit. as for depth - we were still a really young team last year and lost exactly one player worthy of being picked up in the draft. skill positions are all back and depth is improving.
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Yall will be good but I think you should prove it before you start ranking yourself 1a or 2. I mean we all know in the SEC, defense wins games. LSU D>>>>> arky d
and arkansas O>>>>> LSU O.
and again, we lost very few players and picked up a great DL coach who simplified the playbook and has a lot of input with the DC. the defense will improve. we have a ton of talent coming back, i don't think choosing us 2nd in the West is all that crazy.
This post was edited on 5/8/10 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 5/8/10 at 6:38 pm to sugatowng
I don't think it would be suprising to see AU, Arkansas, Bama, or LSU win it.
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