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Each SEC school's highest finish in the AP Poll

Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:24 am
Posted by Sean Bean
USA
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:24 am
Sorted by highest finish in AP Poll
(season this placement last occurred)

Alabama: #1 (2017)
Auburn: #1 (2010)
Florida: #1 (2008)
LSU: #1 (2007)
Tennessee: #1 (1998)
Georgia: #1 (1980)
Texas A&M: #1 (1939)
Arkansas: #2 (1964)
Ole Miss: #2 (1960)
South Carolina: #4 (2013)
Missouri: #4 (2007)
Kentucky: #6 (1977)
Mississippi St: #9 (1940)
Vanderbilt: #12 (1948)

Question:

Why does the AP Poll hate Ole Miss and Arkansas? (See: 1960 & '64).

Thankfully, they started releasing their final poll after all of the bowls were completed soon after these seasons.
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
16301 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:32 am to
God... Who fricking cares. Watch more porn.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
41930 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:32 am to
It would be better, to put things into proper perspective, if we knew each program's highest finish this millennium.

The reason I make that observation is because, let's say, A&M has finished Top 5 recently, right? But their #1 finish in '39 makes it look like it's been awhile.
Posted by DoubleBubbleTrouble
Don’t
Member since Nov 2013
2362 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:33 am to
Posted by Sean Bean
USA
Member since May 2018
490 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:37 am to
quote:

Kneehigh


quote:

Georgia Fan


quote:

1980


Makes sense






























Posted by SabinBear
Member since Jan 2018
1145 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:39 am to
Alabama: #1 (2017)
Auburn: #1 (2010)
Florida: #1 (2008)
LSU: #1 (2007)
Tennessee: #1 (1998)
Georgia: #1 (1980)
Texas A&M: #1 (1939)





People who can't win it all.

Arkansas: #2 (1964)
Ole Miss: #2 (1960)
South Carolina: #4 (2013)
Missouri: #4 (2007)
Kentucky: #6 (1977)
Mississippi St: #9 (1940)
Vanderbilt: #12 (1948)
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21651 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:43 am to
quote:

People who can't win it all.


In before someone points out some of those teams did not, in fact, win them all.

Just the ones that mattered most.
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5801 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:47 am to
A great debate would be who deserved the 1960 national title. Before the bowls:

Missouri (10-0)
Ole Miss (9-0-1)
Minnesota (8-1)

All three held the #1 ranking during the season.

Had Missouri defeated Kansas on the field, they would have won both the AP and UPI. Due to KU playing with an ineligible player, weeks later the win was forfeited, and later given the W to Missouri, but it was too late to make a difference in the polls.

The state of Mississippi in the 60s is partly a reason why they were denied the #1 final honor in 1960.

(8-1) Minnesota won the title before losing Rose Bowl to finish (8-2).


Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:50 am to
Sean Bean fighting back now
This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 1:06 am
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
16831 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:03 am to
quote:

A great debate would be who deserved the 1960 national title. Before the bowls:

Missouri (10-0)
Ole Miss (9-0-1)
Minnesota (8-1)

All three held the #1 ranking during the season.

Had Missouri defeated Kansas on the field, they would have won both the AP and UPI. Due to KU playing with an ineligible player, weeks later the win was forfeited, and later given the W to Missouri, but it was too late to make a difference in the polls.



Sucks too because we beat a top 5 Navy team in the Orange Bowl afterwards.
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5801 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 7:23 am to
and Navy was solid then in football.

Missouri was coached by 1977 ND National Champion Head Coach Dan Devine. One of his assistants, Merv Johnson was part of that 1960 Missouri squad. Followed him to ND and then left to go to OU and has been part of OU since the 80s.
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
4956 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 8:03 am to
Not sure when the AP began to issue a final poll after Bowl games, but in 1950 their final poll was before the Bowl games.

A 7th ranked Kentucky team whose only loss was to a 11-1 Tennessee team beat top ranked Oklahoma in the Bowl game. Accordingly I believe if the AP would have published a true final poll after Bowl games Kentucky would have most likely been in the top 3?

BTW Babe Parilli agrees with me
This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 8:06 am
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
5190 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:48 am to
An interesting note about 1950. UT’s only loss that year was a 7-0 loss to Mississippi State in Starkvegas. General Bob Neyland was so mad and distraught that he vowed to never bring team back to State. True to his word, UT and State played either in Knoxville or Memphis from 1951-1986 (games were intermittent through those years). 1987 was the first time back to Scott Field for UT.

The 7-0 loss to State cost UT a Natty as I believe they were the best team in the country that year.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23696 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:54 am to
quote:

An interesting note about 1950. UT’s only loss that year was a 7-0 loss to Mississippi State in Starkvegas. General Bob Neyland was so mad and distraught that he vowed to never bring team back to State. True to his word, UT and State played either in Knoxville or Memphis from 1951-1986 (games were intermittent through those years). 1987 was the first time back to Scott Field for UT.

The 7-0 loss to State cost UT a Natty as I believe they were the best team in the country that year.



It's crazy how there was no regularized SEC scheduling until the first expansion (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Didn't some teams play more conference games than others some years? And it also lead to certain teams barely playing for multiple decades at a time. We think we have it rough now with the 6 year wait . I think Auburn and LSU went something like 20 years without playing at one point. I suppose back then it was really just a way to pool money and not necessarily have all the teams play each other.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89355 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:57 am to
issuing final polls/champions before bowl games is one of the dumbest things CFB has ever done. It's why I have no problems at all claiming 1942 (and the school does) despite rival fans only saying we have 1 title.

We went 11-1 while "champion" OSU went 9-1. OSU beat 2 ranked teams ranked 13th and 4th, and finished their season winning over Iowa Pre-Flight for their 10th game, and being crowned champ before Decemeber. In the regular season UGA beat 2 ranked teams ranked 3rd and 2nd, and capped the season by shutting out ranked UCLA in the rose bowl.
Posted by AuburnPanic40
GA 400
Member since Jan 2016
909 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Georgia: #1 (1980)

quote:

God... Who fricking cares

a UGA fan pretending not to care about that statistic is fricking hilarious
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3125 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Sucks too because we beat a top 5 Navy team in the Orange Bowl afterwards.


Correction: Navy was #4 AP.

Put us down for 1960. We're claiming the frickin' 1960 Championship. Undefeated after kansas gets caught cheatin'. Frick kansas forever. Minnesota had a reg. season loss, just the facts.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85035 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:36 am to
quote:

would be better, to put things into proper perspective, if we knew each program's highest finish this millennium. 


I know LSUs answer. They have finished AP#1 twice in 125 years, 1958 and 2007. We fired one of the guys to do it and replaced him with a shrimp boat captain.
Posted by TonyMontana
Member since Jul 2017
1169 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:41 am to
quote:


Why does the AP Poll hate Ole Miss and Arkansas?


Why does MSU hate being good at sports?
Posted by Arkansas
Member since Dec 2017
16 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:53 am to
Arkansas 1964 - There was no AP poll after the bowl games. We ended #1 in all the polls taken after the bowl games.

And we are undefeated so far this year.
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