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re: Don't say I didn't call it (Jimbo Extension)
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:10 pm to Bobbum Man
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:10 pm to Bobbum Man
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Oh, so now Sumlin made Johnny and Evans?
Jesus Christ dude, you don’t have to keep digging this hole…..
I’m not saying Sumlin is better than Jimbo… Man y’all are a bunch of simpletons. Sherman’s four recruiting classes were ranked 15th, 27th, 16th, and 34th and you just tried to tell me that he inherited a loaded football team that consisted of two 3 star players that had never taken a snap going into 2012.
Sumlin was their coach, whether you want to give him credit or not I couldn’t give a frick.
What y’all did would be like North Carolina giving Mack 9 million a year because “good trajectory” and he won a title in 2005. That is what you are doing with Jimbo.
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:12 pm to WhosYourDaddy
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and you just tried to tell me that he inherited a loaded football team that consisted of two 3 star players that had never taken a snap going into 2012.
For QB and o-line, he sure as hell did. Do you want me to pretend that fact somehow isn’t a fact to placate you? Maybe if you call everyone else a simpleton for the 5th time, your posts will start to make more sense. Or maybe not.
If Sumlin was responsible for the success of that offense, even just most of it, why the hell is he unemployed right now?
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What y’all did would be like North Carolina giving Mack 9 million a year because “good trajectory” and he won a title in 2005. That is what you are doing with Jimbo.
Would you like to compare North Carolina and A&M’s recruiting classes since the start of Jimbo’s tenure? Or is that only something a simpleton would do?
Seems to me your mouth works a hell of a lot better than your brain, dumbfrick.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:17 pm to idlewatcher
quote:Flexing the $$ so Horns will see who’s willing to spend.
damn, that's a lot of coin
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:19 pm to Farmer1906
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The new deal will basically tack on 3 years (or 4 depending on when it kicks in) and bump to 9 M.
Come on LSU, you got an NC coach too.
Show them what a real extension looks like?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:20 pm to Bobbum Man
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Would you like to compare North Carolina and A&M’s recruiting classes since the start of Jimbo’s tenure? Or is that only something a simpleton would do?
Seems to me your mouth works a hell of a lot better than your brain, dumbfrick.
Bit of a difference in location, conference, and resources between the two.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:21 pm to Bobbum Man
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For QB and o-line, he sure as hell did. Do you want me to pretend that fact somehow isn’t a fact to placate you? Maybe if you call everyone else a simpleton for the 5th time, your posts will start to make more sense. Or maybe not.
If Sumlin was responsible for the success of that offense, even just most of it, why the hell is he unemployed right now?
You are a simpleton because you don’t know how to argue a point free from current knowledge.. Johnny was a nobody prior to 2012, a 3 star QB recruited by a lame duck .500 coach. Yet all you’ve done is frame it like Sumlin inherited a blue chip QB who could have played anywhere in the country, destined for greatness.
Here is Johnny’s offer list: LINK /
Sumlin totally inherited a stud destined to win a Heisman. I couldn’t give a frick who you give the credit too. The point remains the same, at the time each got their extensions the narrative was/is the same.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:22 pm to SidewalkTiger
That doesn’t negate the point in the slightest.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:24 pm to Bobbum Man
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That doesn’t negate the point in the slightest.
It absolutely does.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:24 pm to WhosYourDaddy
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You are a simpleton because you don’t know how to argue a point free from current knowledge.. Johnny was a nobody prior to 2012, a 3 star QB recruited by a lame duck .500 coach. Yet all you’ve done is frame it like Sumlin inherited a blue chip QB who could have played anywhere in the country, destined for greatness. Here is Johnny’s offer list: LINK /
Do you understand that sometimes players are not analyzed correctly coming out of high school? That some players way under-perform and other way over-perform? Is that something you are capable of grasping?
Are you seriously implying Johnny wouldn’t have been a very good player almost anywhere he went?
I’m kind of seeing why you constantly attempt to trash other people’s intelligence. It’s projection.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:31 pm to bamameister
It's pretty telling that most of the people criticizing the move are A&M's biggest rival (LSU) and former biggest rival (Texas, who still thinks they're relevant).
To correct some posts above, here are FACTS:
1. A&M was not a senior laden team- 9 starters back on D this year. On O, Aggies lost a QB (which is a good thing) and four linemen.
2. Trajectories of Sumlin and Herman vs. Fisher form a nice big "X".
3. Everyone dealt with Covid last year. The fact that A&M had a great season, with an ALL-SEC schedule, supports even more the program Fisher is building.
4. A&M knew what it was doing when it hired Fisher despite all the criticism it and Fisher received. Anyone half versed in college football should have known that contract would be UNDER paying Fisher in a few years if he did what he was paid to. He wasn't paid to win a NC in year 3 (or even year 4). He was paid to completely rebuild a program so it would be in a position to compete for NCs every year. He accomplished that by the end of year 3; that's where A&M is today; that's why his contract is being updated.
END OF STORY
To correct some posts above, here are FACTS:
1. A&M was not a senior laden team- 9 starters back on D this year. On O, Aggies lost a QB (which is a good thing) and four linemen.
2. Trajectories of Sumlin and Herman vs. Fisher form a nice big "X".
3. Everyone dealt with Covid last year. The fact that A&M had a great season, with an ALL-SEC schedule, supports even more the program Fisher is building.
4. A&M knew what it was doing when it hired Fisher despite all the criticism it and Fisher received. Anyone half versed in college football should have known that contract would be UNDER paying Fisher in a few years if he did what he was paid to. He wasn't paid to win a NC in year 3 (or even year 4). He was paid to completely rebuild a program so it would be in a position to compete for NCs every year. He accomplished that by the end of year 3; that's where A&M is today; that's why his contract is being updated.
END OF STORY
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:33 pm to Bobbum Man
quote:Every time the media gives us crap, it tends to work out for us. I'm okay with that
I don’t think this will get the glowing media reaction you hope it will. Nor should it.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:33 pm to Bobbum Man
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Do you understand that sometimes players are not analyzed correctly coming out of high school? That some players way under-perform and other way over-perform? Is that something you are capable of grasping?
Are you seriously implying Johnny wouldn’t have been a very good player almost anywhere he went?
I’m kind of seeing why you constantly have to trash other people’s intelligence. It’s projection.
That isn’t what I’m saying at all. It happens all the time, Colt was a 3 star, but if you ask any Texas fan if they thought Colt would leave Texas as the winningest QB in college football history going into the 2006 season when he was in a QB battle with Jevan Snead, they would be lying to you. Like you are doing now.
Any A&M fan trying to frame a narrative that Sumlin inherited a Ferrari because those overlooked players ended up being great, is a dumb arse. Sumlin inherited a program that went 25-25 the last 4 years prior to his arrival with two recruiting classes outside the top 25. You guys had no idea what was about to happen in 2012, Johnny was a 3 star who hadn’t taken a snap. Not you, me , or any college football fan had any idea about what he would go on to do. No different than Colt.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:35 pm to truth22
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He wasn't paid to win a NC in year 3 (or even year 4). He was paid to completely rebuild a program so it would be in a position to compete for NCs every year. He accomplished that by the end of year 3; that's where A&M is today; that's why his contract is being updated.
END OF STORY
What proof is there that this is true?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:39 pm to WhosYourDaddy
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Any A&M fan trying to frame a narrative that Sumlin inherited a Ferrari because those overlooked players ended up being great, is a dumb arse. Sumlin inherited a program that went 25-25 the last 4 years prior to his arrival with two recruiting classes outside the top 25. You guys had no idea what was about to happen in 2012, Johnny was a 3 star who hadn’t taken a snap. Not you, me , or any college football fan had any idea about what he would go on to do. No different than Colt.
Okay. Then why was his first job after us a shitty Arizona program? Why is he unemployed now?
Apparently those really in the know disagree with you.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 9/1/21 at 12:51 pm to Utesaurus Tex
quote:This coming from a sip is the richest joke ever
Hang the banners boys. You've only got 3 days left before you'll have to actually play football and prove something this season.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 1:08 pm to ColoradoAg
Notice he has no answer for this question.
“SiMpLeToN” bomb incoming in 3….2….1…..
“SiMpLeToN” bomb incoming in 3….2….1…..
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 9/1/21 at 1:09 pm to Farmer1906
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Sumlin was the OC for A&M and OU
Sumlin was never an OC at Oklahoma. Try again.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 1:35 pm to CharlotteSooner
He absolutely was. Are you trying to say he wasn’t the play caller? Or that he was never the only offensive coordinator?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 1:38 pm to Bobbum Man
My guess is that there is a whole lot of whistling past the graveyard among Aggie faithful as they speak of the wisdom in giving Jimbo this extension. They know it sets them up for ridicule if this year doesn’t work out like they are obviously expecting. Personally I don’t see it. Looking at last year, I truly believe they would have been outclassed had they made the playoffs. Look at their last game of the regular season (LSU). They feel like it was their best team in years and yet the LSU (which everyone acknowledges was pretty bad) stayed with them into the 4th quarter in College Station. Check the stats—they we’re almost identical. And yet they feel like that team did great things. I don’t see them winning in Baton Rouge anymore this year than they have done in years past (0). I’m not picking on them, I just think they’re not being realistic.
We’ll see.
We’ll see.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 1:42 pm to ianfson1
I do agree our game vs LSU was our worst game of the season. The only one that even compares was the first conference game against Vandy.
Where we probably disagree is that singular game being some sort of sign of things to come vs just being a very off game for us. Teams generally have 1-2 off games a year, they just do. Even the really good ones. And when Mond is your QB, it’s almost guaranteed. Trust me, Mond had games like that against teams other than LSU as well, many of them against worse teams.
And of course, I’m sure LSU’s raw talent of defense had something to do with it. But do I think that one game was representative of our team last year? No.
To your point, we were lucky that we happened to have one of our shite games at a time when LSU was rebuilding. But on the other side of that coin, I think that’s exactly what it was, a shite game for us. I would be shocked to see that level of play repeat this November.
Where we probably disagree is that singular game being some sort of sign of things to come vs just being a very off game for us. Teams generally have 1-2 off games a year, they just do. Even the really good ones. And when Mond is your QB, it’s almost guaranteed. Trust me, Mond had games like that against teams other than LSU as well, many of them against worse teams.
And of course, I’m sure LSU’s raw talent of defense had something to do with it. But do I think that one game was representative of our team last year? No.
To your point, we were lucky that we happened to have one of our shite games at a time when LSU was rebuilding. But on the other side of that coin, I think that’s exactly what it was, a shite game for us. I would be shocked to see that level of play repeat this November.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 1:47 pm
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