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re: Don’t blame the NCAA for NIL
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:04 am to jonnyanony
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:04 am to jonnyanony
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Sixty years of college football being incredibly lucrative and they begrudgingly gave players a tiny stipend.
How generous. Guess they're off the hook.
College Football players had it made. Yall just fell for tearjerker stories of athletes not able to send money to all their baby mommas.
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:04 am to jonnyanony
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How generous. Guess they're off the hook.
You seem to believe that every single one of them didn't do everything they could for the opportunity to play college ball. Like , somehow, the kids were tricked into servitude.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:06 am to jonnyanony
Ultimately it’s up to the consumer. Is there an appetite for “NFL Lite” or not. I know, personally, my interest has waned. I hope it doesn’t get to the point of foreign interest, like the Saudi’s, “buying” a brand name because they can’t break into the NFL ownership ranks.
Imagine an Iron Bowl with one team wearing Etihad jerseys and the other wearing Emirates Airways.
Imagine an Iron Bowl with one team wearing Etihad jerseys and the other wearing Emirates Airways.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:06 am to Bamafig
It’s most certainly the NCAA’s fault. They got greedy and began using name and likeness of their athletes to make more and more money, without any thought to compensation.
It’s 100% their own fault
It’s 100% their own fault
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:27 am to borotiger
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You seem to believe that every single one of them didn't do everything they could for the opportunity to play college ball. Like , somehow, the kids were tricked into servitude.
Of course they did. What choice did they have if they wanted to play?
Baseball players get to choose: college or try the pros. Basketball players have, too.
Football? You only get one choice: we make money from you for three years so we can pretend you're all in it for the love of the school.
If they had been proactive about it a half century ago we wouldn't be in this mess.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:30 am to jonnyanony
The NFL players Union has kept players in college, not the NCAA. You can’t compare football to baseball.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:34 am to jonnyanony
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Football? You only get one choice: we make money from you for three years so we can pretend you're all in it for the love of the school.
That's an NFL rule that has nothing to do with college.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:36 am to ukraine_rebel
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it should have occurred to the NCAA just how wrong they were to not let players make money,
Why should they have? Their whole raison d'etre was amateur athletics. Why a private organization can't set it's own rules and bylaws without outside interference from courts, I'll never understand. High school athletes had a choice: come play a sport for Hometown State and get free room/board/education (and get treated like a prince all the while) , or don't.
All the "muh capitalism!" deep thinkers on here won't admit it, but there is no market for kids fresh out of high school playing professional sports. None. No one is paying to see an 18 yr old Bo Jackson, Julio Jones or Reggie Bush. They are paying to see those players play for Auburn or Alabama or the Trojans of USC. Outside of the trappings and traditions of collegiate sports, these players have no draw. That's the market. If anything, players have been overcompensated all these years.
The proof of this is for 100 years there was an opportunity for a group of entrepreneurs to start a professional league of these young players out of high school, pay them, and exploit that vacuum in the market. The fact no one ever has tells you all you need to know.
The organization all the race-baiters and do-gooders actually ought to be castigating is the NFL. That's the professional league that won't allow players in that age range to make a living playing football.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:45 am to Bamafig
It's Ed O'bannons fault.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:52 am to Radio One
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This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 9:03 am
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:54 am to Tridentds
100% correct
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:58 am to collegefootballisbroken
The mistake fans made was to think the sport actually belonged to them in a sense, or that they had a tangible ownership stake in the product.
That's the biggest reason for 99% of the threads like this on the forum. Fans think their interests/wants/demands should be predominant because "they pay the bills" ... that's true in a way, I concede, but the complete truth is actually a little more nuanced and "shades of gray" ... but their interests/wants/demands are being ignored in this stuff, and they feel that something they "own," that "belongs to them," is being taken away, and they're pissed about it, especially old-school fans.
They obsess about the money because I think some of them really get off on seeing on the idea of transient unpaid kids (except for scholarships which while not unsubstantial are microscopic compared to the money being made off this stuff now) performing for their entertainment and being held in line and commanded around by coaches channeling R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket because most of society doesn't work that way now and "amateur college sports" was always an outlier from that.
The money is not going away. The athletes are going to be paid. If you can't handle that, don't watch. Fix the portal and get rid of the unrestricted free agency, which no athletes in any other sport, professional or "amateur," possess, and this will regulate itself into equilibrium in a few years.
That's the biggest reason for 99% of the threads like this on the forum. Fans think their interests/wants/demands should be predominant because "they pay the bills" ... that's true in a way, I concede, but the complete truth is actually a little more nuanced and "shades of gray" ... but their interests/wants/demands are being ignored in this stuff, and they feel that something they "own," that "belongs to them," is being taken away, and they're pissed about it, especially old-school fans.
They obsess about the money because I think some of them really get off on seeing on the idea of transient unpaid kids (except for scholarships which while not unsubstantial are microscopic compared to the money being made off this stuff now) performing for their entertainment and being held in line and commanded around by coaches channeling R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket because most of society doesn't work that way now and "amateur college sports" was always an outlier from that.
The money is not going away. The athletes are going to be paid. If you can't handle that, don't watch. Fix the portal and get rid of the unrestricted free agency, which no athletes in any other sport, professional or "amateur," possess, and this will regulate itself into equilibrium in a few years.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 9:07 am
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:01 am to geauxbrown
The NCAA rode these kids for millions using them every step of the way. I hope they go bankrupt.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:13 am to Bamafig
This is 100% on the NCAA. They should have figured this out decades ago.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:36 am to jangalang
The NCAA kept the genie in the bottle as long as it could.
If they would have gave the players a little money 20 yrs ago this all would have happened sooner. You give a inch and they will take a mile.
Everyone thought a little NIL money would make these players happy and look what has happened in two years. There has to be some guidelines, contracts, and it needs to happen quickly.
But the courts are all in with the players. Not sure how this will end but anyone that couldnt see this cluster coming was/is a dipshit.
If they would have gave the players a little money 20 yrs ago this all would have happened sooner. You give a inch and they will take a mile.
Everyone thought a little NIL money would make these players happy and look what has happened in two years. There has to be some guidelines, contracts, and it needs to happen quickly.
But the courts are all in with the players. Not sure how this will end but anyone that couldnt see this cluster coming was/is a dipshit.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:38 am to Bamafig
We look at the NCAA completely wrong. The NCAA is the schools. Its not some govt organization. The schools DID get greedy. There wouldnt be NIL without the massive ad infested tv contracts, corporate ticket blocks, box seats, monetized tailgating and campus parking. The average joe cant afford season tickets. The schools literally cashed in on every last little bit of pageantry and tradition to ENRICH THEMSELVES. They wouldnt even share the meager video game money with players.
Blame the greedy University Presidents who gave themselves raises after leveraging the sports programs(mainly cfb).
Blame the greedy University Presidents who gave themselves raises after leveraging the sports programs(mainly cfb).
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:40 am to TheFourHorsemen
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The Universities* rode* these kids for millions using them every step of the way. I hope they go bankrupt.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:52 am to InkStainedWretch
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The mistake fans made was to think the sport actually belonged to them in a sense, or that they had a tangible ownership stake in the product.
With NIL, now it actually does.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:55 am to Quicksilver
Point taken 
but you know what I mean.
but you know what I mean.Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:09 am to Bamafig
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Don’t blame the NCAA for NIL
They could mitigate it through rules and enforcement of those rules. It was intended to allow student athletes to benefit from their names, image and likeness through personal deals independent from the university. The collectives associated with schools are purely pay for play schemes.
Just deny schools from associating with the collectives or assisting athletes in the pursuit of independent NIL deals.
Enforce that no member of the university or its athletic department are allowed to discuss or negotiate in NIL deals with student athletes. When revenue sharing comes to be, the NCAA can direct the manner of distribution and potential caps.
If a student athlete wants to hire agents and pursue independent deals, so be it. More power to them.
That said, collectives, fans, and boosters behind the independent NIL deals will eventually smarten up and place clauses on the NIL deals to protect their interests and deter players from taking their money and transferring to another school.
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