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re: Does Texas or Oklahoma know what is happening?
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:01 am to Gunga Din
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:01 am to Gunga Din
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The SEC champ is 135-11 against the rest of the league in regular season SEC games. That is a winning percentage of 92.4%.
Those numbers don't quite mean what you think they mean. I'd agree with you that "Every team can beat you" if you're a top team isn't right. Every team can beat you if you're a good but not great team, but for the top teams it takes other elite teams to beat you.
But the reality is the SEC regularly has a LOT of those teams.
Last year you had 2 8-0 in conference teams in the regular season... UGA and Alabama.
You also had 3 6-2 teams who finished in the top 12.
Mizzou was #8. They lost to #4 UGA and #12 LSU.
Ole Miss was #9. They lost to #4 UGA and #5 Bama
LSU was #12. They lost to #5 Bama and #9 Ole Miss.
Those second three teams if they beat UGA or Bama would just have replaced them at the top of the pile. The top team still would have had a great record against the rest of the conference, but it would have been a different team.
Tennessee was next at #17. They lost to #4 UGA, #5 Bama and #8 Mizzou. They also lost to UF who had talent but underperformed for much of the year other than showing up to beat Tennessee.
A&M? Lost to #4 Bama, #9 Ole Miss, #12 LSU and #17 Tennessee (all of them 1 score games).
UK? Lost to 4 ranked SEC teams and at South Carolina by 3 points. Other than UGA and Bama, all their losses were 1 score or less.
Yes, the team that comes out at the top will have a great conference record every year in the SEC. The reality is that happens due to there being so many teams in contention who handle the bottom half of the conference well, so whoever wins amongst the top teams has few or no warts each year.
In the end it's clear you don't realize the talent level of the teams you'll be facing. You think that Kansas and OkSU are the same level of team as Tennessee due to their ranking.
The reality is they aren't. The lesser Big 12 teams don't have near the level of talent. They're propped up because they aren't tested regularly against high talent teams. Instead they have their game against Texas and OU and a lesser test against TCU... and that's it.
The harsh reality is that in the Big 12, you were in the spot that UGA and Bama have been in the SEC. You expect the same coming in to the SEC.
But in the SEC (with your current coach and based on his performance last year... his good year) you're Tennessee or Texas A&M.
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:02 am to Smokey Okie
Didn't I see this identical name "Smokie Okie" posting with an OU logo just a few weeks ago?
Nearly positive I did.
Stop draggin us in the dirt.
Nearly positive I did.
Stop draggin us in the dirt.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:04 am to DawginSC
quote:OU has better talent than most of them
In the end it's clear you don't realize the talent level of the teams you'll be facing.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:06 am to Smokey Okie
1971 the Big 8 finished with the #1, #2, and #3 rated teams in CFB. The kids on this board dont know football.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:07 am to bamameister
quote:So is losing to Texas. Isn’t your record like 1-9 against the longhorns?
That measly measuring stick is standard operating procedure for ALABAMA.
quote:Well a bama fan just made a thread about Texas needing to be scared despite Texas embarrassing Alabama worse than ever in the entire saban era, so you tell me
You mostly compare to that TAMU team in the way you run your mouth about one game. And BAMA beat you in Austin the year before, who gives a crap in BAMA Land. How many times has any BAMA fan brought that shite up?
quote:Well if only we could play Alabama for all 12 games. When our QBs are healthy, it’s obvious Texas would go 12-0 against that schedule. They made the tide look like total pussies on their own home field last year
So you're 1-1 after 2 years. Big shite, it gets a lot harder from here on out shorthorn.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:08 am to Zgeo
quote:They clearly don't.
1971 the Big 8 finished with the #1, #2, and #3 rated teams in CFB. The kids on this board dont know football.
The original XII had THREE bluebloods
The SEC only NOW has three, most from the XII
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:25 am to Smokey Okie
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For all of us, football is all there is to life and nothing else matters
The life of every SEC fan....
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:28 am to Smokey Okie
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They have never played weaker teams like Arkansas and LSU and Missouri
Mizzou is consensus top 10, hoss. Dumbass.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:32 am to Smokey Okie
no…whats happening?
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:34 am to bamameister
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You got your shot at the Tide when we were clueless on how to set Jalen Milroe free. Even then BAMA had 2 TDs called back that would have won the game for us.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:36 am to GeauxTigers1983
He could have said Miss St and Vanderbilt.
But oh no he said LSU and Missouri who went 10-2?
Clown.
But oh no he said LSU and Missouri who went 10-2?
Clown.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:55 am to Smokey Okie
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They have never played weaker teams like Arkansas and LSU and Missouri
Have you ever heard of the SWC or Big 8?
Then for LSU Texas is 9-8-1.
This post was edited on 7/15/24 at 9:56 am
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:56 am to Smokey Okie
Drink bleach, Owl.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 10:05 am to Smokey Okie
Lowly mizzou has done better in sec than in b12. That doormat being competitive now tells me about sec
Posted on 7/15/24 at 10:54 am to Yukons Worst
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You mean like playing
#11 Texas then the next week playing
#2 Kansas State then the next week playing
#1 Nebraska then two weeks later playing
#23 Texas A&M then the next week playing
Mike Leech Texas Tech Team then the next week playing
OSU Team then the next week playing
#8 Kansas State again then playing
#2 Florida State.
Texas and OU have starters to compete in the SEC. They do not have the depth to, especially in the trenches, to win the war of attrition that playing a SEC schedule is today. That doesn't mean they can't win the conference, either certainly could (Texas especially) but it will mean that they have managed to remain relatively healthy in the trenches which is not done often. Both teams will have that depth in a season or so but I would suspect either head coach, especially Sark, knows how thin the margin is.
The schedule above consisted of teams that played no one other than OU. The big 8, 12 or SWC never had the depth and talent in the trenches that exists in the SEC in Nashville and Lexington, let alone Oxford and Tuscaloosa. That is where the problem lies. Quality depth wins in the SEC. Everybody in CFB has starters...its being able to run a couple of fresh d lineman on the field every 4th play or so that makes a difference.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 11:02 am to Audustxx
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Lowly mizzou has done better in sec than in b12. That doormat being competitive now tells me about sec
Mizzou has taken advantage of recruiting benefits for being in the SEC.
The 247 talent composite only goes back to 2015 so I can't exactly say where Mizzou's talent was when they left the Big 12. But in 2015 they were 34th, smack dab between OKSU and Texas Tech.
Last year Mizzou was 25th in the nation in talent. Texas tech was 40th. OkSU was 55th.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 11:09 am to Smokey Okie
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hey have never played weaker teams like Arkansas and LSU and Missouri who can beat you when you aren't expecting it.
Oklahoma and Mizzou have played each other 96 times.
I think they know what is happening, and they are going to love it. I would rather watch Mizzou go .500 against a stacked, exciting SEC schedule than win the Leftover 12 and get stomped in the first round of the Playoffs. I am sure most OU and Texas fans share this sentiment.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 11:10 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:How so, when they have recruited on par or better than most of SEC for 3 years.
Texas and OU have starters to compete in the SEC. They do not have the depth to, especially in the trenches, to win the war of attrition that playing a SEC schedule is today.
The original XII had THREE bluebloods to the SEC's ONE, battling it out year after year. That means championships, wins, win pct throughout history.
But hey, I don't expect a georgia fan to understand what long term success is.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 11:12 am to Smokey Okie
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They've never faced competition week in and week out like they will see now. Their fans don't really like football like fans of SEC teams do.
I’m so glad the season is about to start. Perhaps stupid posts like this will end. You make it sound like all the other conferences are church leagues or something. For quite a while, SEC has been on top but that wasn’t always the case.
Sorry. I know this site is more about trash talk. Carry on. TX and OU ain’t ready for the SEC!!
Posted on 7/15/24 at 11:14 am to Smokey Okie
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