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Does Tennessee win the National Title in 1998 without Peyton Manning?

Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by TheMT83
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:47 am
Related topic to the Tennessee title drought thread and it made me think about this. Before anyone says anything yes I know Peyton Manning wasn't the QB for the 1998 Vols football team. I know the one blemish in his otherwise amazing football career was never beating Florida and never getting over the hump to win a National Title in football.

But the other thread got me thinking, does Tennessee win the National Title in 1998 without Peyton Manning going there?

I seriously doubt it. Sure Tennessee recruited well in the 90s with Georgia in the dumpster (Tennessee absolutely raided Georgia during the 90's for players) and Alabama and Auburn being in and out of probation and dealing with various NCAA violations. But I seriously doubt Tennessee gets all of the players they did, including the ones who played a big part on the National Title team. With Peyton Manning being a generation talent at the time that attracted big time recruits to Tennessee.

Like the other thread argued, Tennessee, for all it's tradition, is Ole Miss if they didn't have that 93 - 04 period. Like Ole Miss the vast majority of Tennessee's success, including National Titles and SEC Titles, came pre integration. Tennessee's national titles were in 1938, 1940, 1950, 1951, 1967 and 1998. And even with that 1967 is debatable as USC was by and large the consensus National Champion but one poll did give Tennessee the title that year. Without Peyton Manning their lack of recent success could have been used against them.

The good thing is we don't have to worry about that streak ending this year or probably anytime soon.
But does Tennessee win the National Title in 1998 without Peyton Manning being there in the years prior?
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by BlindedMeWithScience
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:47 am to
Did not read
Posted by Aguga
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:47 am to
Tl;dr
quote:

Peyton Manning wasn't the QB for the 1998 Vols
Posted by WriTenn
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:48 am to
What a stupid question.
Posted by BlindedMeWithScience
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Peyton Manning wasn't the QB for the 1998 Vols

Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:06 am to
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This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 9:08 am
Posted by TheMT83
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:08 am to
It's still an interesting question. Do you really think Tennessee gets Peerless Price, Travis Henry, Jamal Lewis, or Travis Stephens on offense without Peyton Manning? I seriously doubt it, at least not all of them. And it would be hard to see them winning the National Title that year without some of those players.
Posted by theRealJesseD
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:09 am to
This is tenner level trolling
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:11 am to
Peyton Manning wasn't the QB for the 1998 Vols football team.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:15 am to
Interesting fact you should have pointed out instead, yours wasn’t fact btw

Manning never beat Florida
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:15 am to
Posted by jamespatterson
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:18 am to
Damn, 1998. Corded phones. AOL. Tennessee football.
Posted by Gator5220
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:23 am to
For an entire season that was the luckiest team I’ve ever seen. People remember Stoerner’s fumble and forget they played against a backup QB in the NC game.
Posted by Volsfan82169
Spring Hill, TN
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:25 am to
quote:

It's still an interesting question. Do you really think Tennessee gets Peerless Price, Travis Henry, Jamal Lewis, or Travis Stephens on offense without Peyton Manning? I seriously doubt it, at least not all of them. And it would be hard to see them winning the National Title that year without some of those players.


Price maybe not. But the three running backs coming in knew they were at most getting one season with Peyton and knew Tee Martin would be the guy handing the ball off to them. All three knew UT was dead last in the SEC in rushing in 96 and all came in thinking they would get significant playing time. Who the QB was didn’t matter.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:27 am to
quote:

know the one blemish in his otherwise amazing football career was never beating Florida and never getting over the hump to win a National Title in football.



“I know why Peyton came back for his senior year. He wanted to be 3 time star of the citrus bowl” - Steve Spurrier
Posted by Volsfan82169
Spring Hill, TN
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

For an entire season that was the luckiest team I’ve ever seen. People remember Stoerner’s fumble and forget they played against a backup QB in the NC game.


We certainly had the bounces go our way. But to be fair, your Gators had a chance to keep that backup QB out of the championship game…and you failed.

And it wasn’t the Vols fault that both UCLA and Kansas State choked away their chance to get there.
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 9:36 am
Posted by bigDgator
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Do you really think Tennessee gets Peerless Price, Travis Henry, Jamal Lewis, or Travis Stephens on offense without Peyton Manning?


Yes, they were cheating their arse off back then.
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