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re: Does Sumlin hold Chief to a different standard than Miles did?

Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:13 am to
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:13 am to
A&M fans that have anointed Chavis as some GOAT defensive mind are in for a rude awakening.

Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:14 am to
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A pattern of what? Top 20 defenses?


Getting soft and losing big games.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:29 am to
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A&M fans that have anointed Chavis as some GOAT defensive mind are in for a rude awakening.


Literally no A&M fan has said this, most just think he will have us better than a bottom 10 defense in all of college football. HTH
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 11:30 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:35 am to
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All we heard was that Chavis didn't recruit

Really? Then y'all must not be listening.

I've heard all kinds of stuff, like Sumlin is over paid, the aggies have a losing record versus Arkansas and that y'all are rich but still can't field a championship team.

Oh yeah, and I heard aggies are gay.

Keep your ear to the ground and you should hear more than just Chavis didn't recruit.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:37 am to
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Literally no A&M fan has said this


Speak for yourself. Chavis is the GOAT defensive mind.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:39 am to
Give him a 1st round CB, 1st round DE and NFL talent at interior DL and he can and will do work
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:47 am to
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9-11 against the swamp kittens in my lifetime

LSU is 14-9-1 in my lifetime.

You're not so old after all, Sarge.

But way to celebrate your almost not losing record vs LSU.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:55 am to
It'll be in our favor soon
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30284 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:56 am to
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Enough to win. That's kind of the point.

To knit pick Chavis' few losses due to soft coverage in the last two minutes of a few games as a reason to celebrate his departure is more than a little narrow minded IMO.

The defenses that brought wins to LSU over the years damn sure out weighed a few losses. I mean shite, that 2011 defense was a freak of nature and that undefeated season was all on that nasty defense. The most points scored on y'all that year was freakin Oregon.......

Chavis saved Les' inept offenses more than the offense bailed out the defense over the last few years.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:01 pm to
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A&M fans that have anointed Chavis as some GOAT defensive mind are in for a rude awakening.
Every fanbase has unreasonable fans spewing crap on here - the large majority of aTm fans expect Chavis to produce a decent/respectable defense and he's been able to do that at every place he's coached. He's even been able to field top defenses consistantly when he has talent at his disposal.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24522 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:07 pm to
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The defenses that brought wins to LSU over the years damn sure out weighed a few losses. I mean shite, that 2011 defense was a freak of nature and that undefeated season was all on that nasty defense. The most points scored on y'all that year was freakin Oregon.......


That team was littered with legit NFL talent.

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Chavis saved Les' inept offenses more than the offense bailed out the defense over the last few years.


No argument here. I'm just saying that as bad as the offense has been we've still been in position late to win some big games and it was the defense that failed. Take the Bama game this year for instance. We had no business being in a close game with that team and we had the lead in the last 2 minutes. The entire stadium was nervous because we had seen that story play out the last time they were in Tiger Stadium and sure enough, right down the field.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24522 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:10 pm to
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Every fanbase has unreasonable fans spewing crap on here - the large majority of aTm fans expect Chavis to produce a decent/respectable defense and he's been able to do that at every place he's coached. He's even been able to field top defenses consistantly when he has talent at his disposal.


Oh, don't get me wrong, Chavis will make A&M infinitely better on defense from day 1. Their issue is they need to get some players in that secondary to make his scheme work. That has very little to do with Chavis. LSU has benefited greatly from some incredible DB recruiting and development.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30284 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:11 pm to
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No argument here. I'm just saying that as bad as the offense has been we've still been in position late to win some big games and it was the defense that failed. Take the Bama game this year for instance. We had no business being in a close game with that team and we had the lead in the last 2 minutes. The entire stadium was nervous because we had seen that story play out the last time they were in Tiger Stadium and sure enough, right down the field.
I can understand the frustration in games like that - I just don't see an equal amount of anger & frustration towards Les for the ongoing offensive woes that y'all have experienced. Of course, I rarely visit TigerRant so I'm sure there are a ton of "Negatigers" with their daggars out for Les.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24522 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:14 pm to
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I can understand the frustration in games like that - I just don't see an equal amount of anger & frustration towards Les for the ongoing offensive woes that y'all have experienced. Of course, I rarely visit TigerRant so I'm sure there are a ton of "Negatigers" with their daggars out for Les.


Yeah, you just answered this yourself. People have been calling for Les' head over the offense for 4 years now.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:25 pm to
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Oh, don't get me wrong, Chavis will make A&M infinitely better on defense from day 1. Their issue is they need to get some players in that secondary to make his scheme work. That has very little to do with Chavis. LSU has benefited greatly from some incredible DB recruiting and development.


The thing is, so many LSU fans seem to think A&M can't get DB recruits. Why is this? A&M already has 3 four-star DB recruits committed, as well as one JUCO DB who had offers from Bama, Auburn, Georgia etc. Not to mention the state of Texas is literally teeming w/ DBs thanks to the proliferation of spread offenses.

And why does the success of LSU's secondaries, recruiting and development, have little to do w/ Chavis? LSU has had two different DB coaches during Chavis's tenure. They certainly deserve some of the credit, but since the common denominator is Chavis, it seems curious to insist he had no impact on their performance.
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:28 pm to
maybe lsu has a better support staff that gets the players while he sits on his arse?
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24522 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:28 pm to
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The thing is, so many LSU fans seem to think A&M can't get DB recruits. Why is this? A&M already has 3 four-star DB recruits committed, as well as one JUCO DB who had offers from Bama, Auburn, Georgia etc. Not to mention the state of Texas is literally teeming w/ DBs thanks to the proliferation of spread offenses.


Gotta coach them.

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And why does the success of LSU's secondaries, recruiting and development, have little to do w/ Chavis? LSU has had two different DB coaches during Chavis's tenure. They certainly deserve some of the credit, but since the common denominator is Chavis, it seems curious to insist he had no impact on their performance.


LSU had two of the best DB coaches/recruiters in Cooper and Raymond. Chavis doesn't coach the DBs at all. He only calls the schemes.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25310 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:29 pm to
Chavis is a great hire. The issue is whether A&M can reverse the softness of their team. I'm not sure if that is Sumlin's influence or not. Something is wrong when your run defense is ranked in the 100s.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44193 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:37 pm to
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If you think your defense was the problem I'm not sure what to tell you


So it's the offenses fault for leaving more than 1 minute on the clock when giving the defense the lead? Got it.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:38 pm to
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Chavis doesn't coach the DBs at all. He only calls the schemes.


That plays a kinda big role in determining how the DBs perform...
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