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re: Does MSmoo have the talent to challenge 'Bama?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:24 am to Beer Bryant
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:24 am to Beer Bryant
Gumps gonna gump
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:24 am to skirpnasty
Also that 5star recruit Quay Evans chose Mississippi State over Bama last year.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:26 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Also that 5star recruit Quay Evans chose Mississippi State over Bama last year.
Yeah because everyone knows one defensive line recruit means more than a top 3 recruiting class.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:27 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Use this argument with Auburn's recent recruiting class.
Then explain how they are 1-6
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:27 am to Beer Bryant
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Merlins redshirts and develops his players like none other
See: The NFL Draft
Very applicable, since he is in his 4th year and his first class are now mostly rs JRs. Literally half of that 09 class will end up in the NFL.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:28 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Also that 5star recruit Quay Evans chose Mississippi State over Bama last year.
As did 5* Denico Autry
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:29 am to CoonassBulldog
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did you go back and check La-Monroe's recruiting rankings vs Bammer in 2007?
2007 Alabama =/= 2012 Alabama. Alabama didn't have a single player drafted from any one of the seniors on that '07 team.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 9:32 am
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:29 am to engie
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Literally half of that 09 class will end up in the NFL.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:31 am to stronghouse
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Please name those 5 stars that were getting solid playing time when Alabama played Utah. The 2008 Alabama team was actually Saban's weakest team at Alabama in terms of talent.
The second sentence is fine but you should have left off the first.
Alabama's box score for that game contains the names of no less than 14 players currently on NFL rosters. Javy Arenas, Mark Barron, Antoine Caldwell, Terrance Cody, Marcell Dareus, Brandon Deaderick, Dont'a Hightower, Mark Ingram, Kareem Jackson, Rashad Johnson, Mike Johnson, Julio Jones, Rolando McClain, and Courtney Upshaw.
In addition to those, when Glenn Coffee retired to enter the ministry he was all but the 49er's starting back, Darius Hanks is on IR for the Redskins, and John Parker Wilson is on the Jags practice squad.
The 2008 team was absolutely LOADED with talent. Some of it was young, but the talent comparison was a total mismatch.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 9:34 am
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:34 am to RollTide1987
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2007 Alabama =/= 2012 Alabama. Alabama didn't have a single player drafted from any one of the seniors on that '07 team.
so what? You still had twice as much talent as La Monroe- which is what you are trying to prove in this thread
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:40 am to JustGetItRight
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In addition to those, when Glenn Coffee retired to enter the ministry he was all but the 49er's starting back
Didn't he get arrested for having a gun in his car or something?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:43 am to CoonassBulldog
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You still had twice as much talent as La Monroe
The fact that not a single Alabama player was taken in the 2008 NFL Draft kind of shoots down that thesis, doesn't it? For perspective, that's the first time Alabama was shut out of the draft since 1970.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:46 am to RollTide1987
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Alabama's box score for that game contains the names of no less than 14 players currently on NFL rosters. Javy Arenas, Mark Barron, Antoine Caldwell, Terrance Cody, Marcell Dareus, Brandon Deaderick, Dont'a Hightower, Mark Ingram, Kareem Jackson, Rashad Johnson, Mike Johnson, Julio Jones, Rolando McClain, and Courtney Upshaw.
Your brethren already disprove your theory of that team being less talented.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:46 am to RollTide1987
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The fact that not a single Alabama player was taken in the 2008 NFL Draft kind of shoots down that thesis, doesn't it? For perspective, that's the first time Alabama was shut out of the draft since 1970.
And I'm sure ULM had like four or five draft picks right? And none of the juniors or sophomores or freshman went in their drafts later right?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:50 am to skirpnasty
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Your brethren already disprove your theory of that team being less talented.
Oh...2008 Alabama was talented, no doubt. But most of those 4 and 5 star players were freshmen and sophomores. That team played over their heads for much of the season. They were good, but the loss of Andre Smith and Mike Johnson on the offensive line in the Sugar Bowl took away our bread and butter. We couldn't run the football and thus were dead in the water. JPW couldn't win football games for us.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:53 am to RollTide1987
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Oh...2008 Alabama was talented, no doubt. But most of those 4 and 5 star players were freshmen and sophomores. That team played over their heads for much of the season. They were good, but the loss of Andre Smith and Mike Johnson on the offensive line in the Sugar Bowl took away our bread and butter. We couldn't run the football and thus were dead in the water. JPW couldn't win football games for us.
I will give you that the o line losses hurt. Freshmen can come in and play at WR, RB, and sometimes corner immediately along with very isolated cases on the D-line. Offensive linemen ideally never start until they are redshirt sophomores at least.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:02 am to RollTide1987
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They were good, but the loss of Andre Smith and Mike Johnson on the offensive line in the Sugar Bowl took away our bread and butter. We couldn't run the football and thus were dead in the water. JPW couldn't win football games for us.
You see............. This excuse is valid for Alabama, but no one else. If a team, like say LSU, loses Chris Faulk and 2 other O-line starters, then we should have more quality depth. Taking away our bread and butter is not a valid excuse for our team against Florida.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:03 am to Tammany Tom
That was Saban's 2nd season. Miles is in his 8th season.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:04 am to FlukerFlakes
quote:I guess that ULM team that beat that Bama arse a few years back had a top #10 class.
If your class isn't in the top 15....it's basically crap.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:04 am to stronghouse
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Please name those 5 stars that were getting solid playing time when Alabama played Utah. The 2008 Alabama team was actually Saban's weakest team at Alabama in terms of talent.
Really I thought 2007 was?????
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