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re: Does Lock give Mizzou a shot in the East?

Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:08 pm to
A segment of Mizzou fans has spent the past few years jizzing themselves with stats to show Mauk sucks.

But he went 17-4 as a starter. The kid won games. And many times he had bad stat nights but he made the passes that pulled out a big win like at South Carolina last year. Or did it with his feet like the bowl game vs Minnesota.

The backup QB is always the most popular guy on campus. But the degree to which some Mizzou fans have gone overboard with stat whining during the Mauk era rather than just enjoying the fact we won 17 out of 21 games has been kinda surreal.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 1:09 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86555 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:09 pm to
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Literally no one here gives a frick



about missouri, you're right.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67497 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:10 pm to
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rather than just enjoying the fact we won 17 out of 21 games has been kinda surreal.

You misspelled stupid.....and I agree with you.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:11 pm to
Some games he won...some games the defense flat out bailed him out. Mauk definitely has an admirable competitive nature. However, his average QB talent forced us into close games that came down to the wire when an above average QB would have finished those games in the 3rd Q or sooner.

I'll always like Mauk, but he wasn't even as good as James Franklin. James Fraklin went into beast mode in the 2013 SEC Championship game and performed very well on our biggest stage yet. The only problem is that the defense decided to stay home that night.

Mauk went into last year's SEC Championship game and simply got owned.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:41 pm to
I don't want to totally disparage what Mauk has done, because as you say he's got a good record.

The guy in the Tribune said it best though. He's like a pitcher with a 5 ERA that won 15 games. Sure, he won them but the outcome of the games had a lot more to do with what went on around him than what he did.

Mauk can do some things with his legs. Extend plays, occasionally hit the deep ball.

However, he is simply incapable of playing efficient, consistent football. His accuracy is awful and he makes a few indefensible, bonehead decisions every game that usually lead to turnovers.

The best our offense has been with him at the helm is approaching average, and many times falls well short of even that.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 1:48 pm
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:16 pm to
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The backup QB is always the most popular guy on campus. But the degree to which some Mizzou fans have gone overboard with stat whining during the Mauk era rather than just enjoying the fact we won 17 out of 21 games has been kinda surreal.


Have you watched Lock play this year? People were jizzing on themselves during the Summer. There's guys who thought he should start from day 1.

Anyone who has watched Lock play this season has seen what I have seen. A dude who can make all the passes and lead DRIVES.
Posted by austingator
austin
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:25 pm to
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He's the future and probably the best qb in history.



Heard the same thing about Mauk a couple of years ago.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
4184 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:04 pm to
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James Fraklin went into beast mode in the 2013 SEC Championship game and performed very well on our biggest stage yet.

Not really. Go back and watch the game or, better still, read the Rant in-game thread of that 2013 SEC Champ game. You'll see repeated comments that "Franklin is KILLING Mizzou" and that he was all over the place throwing the ball and if he'd just settle down and throw accurately Mizzou would have been in much better shape. He did make a lot of good plays in that game, but it was a Maukesque up and down performance at best.

I could easily argue to you that last year, Mizzou's offensive line and overall offensive game plan is what got owned by Bama. Our only scores and major passing plays were off of Mauk improvisational scrambles where he used his legs and a creative pitch and catch play with Jimmy Hunt et al to make a play after Bama had COMPLETELY dismantled the actual Mizzou play call from the sidelines. Not many QBs out there can do the creative, spinning out of the pocket, Johnny Football-lite improvisation stuff that Mauk could, and it was the only thing that day that gave the Bama defense problems. When we ran our set plays, our whole team got owned. The running backs, healthy though they were, did JACK in that game too which is telling.

I guess that's the thing with the Mauk saga that I don't like. If people are going to say that his winning was a result of what the team around him did, then its unfair to pin losses like Georgia and Bama last year on his performance either without taking into account what the team around him did then either.

Bottom line, the kid's career at Mizzou is over now (there's no way he will suit up for us again) so I think given the very difficult time in his family life he is having right now, its better to just thank the kid for 17 very fun wins and a great SEC East championship season last year and let the debates on his stats and ability come to an end.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:51 pm to
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Lock gives us a decent shot


...in 2016

Exactly. 2016 and 2017 set up nicely.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 5:08 pm to
If Lock even gets the remainder of the starts this year, I still think lock can deliver respectability this year. Couple that with some teams that may lose some games they should have won (kind of like last year) and thinhs can happen, like 2014 season. If they don't that's fine. As long as the team can stay healthy as well as Lock.
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