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re: Does Gus Make Bielema Feel Insecure?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:06 am to Rabern57
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:06 am to Rabern57
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BB hasn't shown he's a better coach than Gus
So head coaching in the Big Ten and going to the Rose Bowl does not at this point trump being an offensive coordinator in the SEC and head coach for one season (that he didn't complete) at Arkansas State? Only a true Auburn homer believes that logic.
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:08 am to aubiecat
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Does anyone have any actual stats of injuries caused by the HUNH offense?
I don't have any idea. I'm guessing there's a lot more faked injuries so it's harder to get valid stats...just my opinion.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:08 am to aubiecat
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Does anyone have any actual stats of injuries caused by the HUNH offense?
Seems like the ones crying like a little count would have some real numbers to back up their made up BS.
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But what if Saban and Bielema are right? Given the increased awareness surrounding the long-term health of football players, shouldn't people at least look into the possible injury risks of no-huddle offenses?
The experts have an answer: Yes, very much so.
fwiw, i think bielema is making the argument 1) sincerely believing the hurry up will lead to more injuries, and 2) because of a (whether you think it's misguided or not) commitment to an idealized version of what football "is". i don't buy that it's complaining by coaches just bc they think they can't stop it.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:10 am to Aman
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68-24 > 9-3
Statistically it isn't. But math is hard when you wear plastic pigs on your head.
For you Arkansas fans who don't give AU a chance, you have A&M, Florida (away), SC, and Alabama (away) before you play AU. Granted you have a week off and it's @ Ark, but that is a brutal stretch.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:12 am to WaveHog
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fwiw, i think bielema is making the argument 1) sincerely believing the hurry up will lead to more injuries, and 2) because of a (whether you think it's misguided or not) commitment to an idealized version of what football "is". i don't buy that it's complaining by coaches just bc they think they can't stop it.
I agree. Good article.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:12 am to WaveHog
There re no stats and its impossible to attribute an injury to the type of offense being run most times. Yeah, if a DL gets cut blocked all game by a GT lineman and hurts his knee, then you can assume that the type of blocking was a contributing factor...but to say that a LB got hurt bec he played 80 plays instead of 65 is a huge reach.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:15 am to parkjas2001
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You got this... from this?
wasn't aimed at you specifically, just the string of comments by other AU fans in this thread. like:
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One of these coaches has a SEC Championship and NC ring and is in the Arkansas HOF . . . . . The other is Bret Bielema
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a coach who has coached in the SEC and proven he can win there, and last year we had Chizik coaching down our team. BB hasn't shown he's a better coach than Gus.
are just fricking dumb. Chizik "coached in the SEC and proven he can win there" before being AU's head coach just like Malzahn has "coached in the SEC".
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:18 am to parkjas2001
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but to say that a LB got hurt bec he played 80 plays instead of 65 is a huge reach.
I wouldn't say huge reach. Pretty easy to draw the conclusion that every play each player has X% chance of getting hurt (we always hear about runningbacks only having so many carries in them before they are done) if you increase the number of plays by 25% that would increase the over all or Y% of a player getting injured.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:19 am to Porky
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I'm not sure what kind of change he's advocating...not specifically.
A chance to sub out tired players.
It isn't about the 3 and outs, its about the 10+ play drives where a player is tired and can't be subbed for.
Offensive players can take a break in these drives by not being directly involved in the play, while all the defenders are usually running towards the ball.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:21 am to atlau
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Statistically it isn't.
Big10 = Sunbelt
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:22 am to WaveHog
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WaveHog
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The article said there is NO data to prove more injuries are caused by the HUNH.
No matter what records Bielema has, he comes off like a whiny crybaby.
I'd be pissed if my coach was crying in front of the media about getting beat by fast offenses.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:22 am to DaleDenton
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A chance to sub out tired players.
It isn't about the 3 and outs, its about the 10+ play drives where a player is tired and can't be subbed for.
Offensive players can take a break in these drives by not being directly involved in the play, while all the defenders are usually running towards the ball.
This makes a lot of sense.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 9:24 am
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:26 am to aubiecat
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The article said there is NO data to prove more injuries are caused by the HUNH.
No matter what records Bielema has, he comes off like a whiny crybaby.
I'd be pissed if my coach was crying in front of the media about getting beat by fast offenses.
according to the article, experts still said it's a concern that should be looked into
bielema's been more vocal, mostly bc he's been asked about it more, but do you think saban is a big crybaby, too? should alabama fans be pissed at saban?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:29 am to WaveHog
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according to the article, experts still said it's a concern that should be looked into
bielema's been more vocal, mostly bc he's been asked about it more, but do you think saban is a big crybaby, too? should alabama fans be pissed at saban?
According to Bert yesterday, he received an email from a guy who analyzed games and had the statistical data of injuries resulting from HUNH situations.
He didn't present it to the media, but sounded like he would present it to the rules committee.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:29 am to WaveHog
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but do you think saban is a big crybaby, too?
Yep.
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should alabama fans be pissed at saban?
You really think this is gonna happen? They have him autograph dead babies. Bama fans idolatry of coaches is different than any other school.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:32 am to DaleDenton
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According to Bert yesterday, he received an email from a guy who analyzed games and had the statistical data of injuries resulting from HUNH situations.
that'd be good to have, hope it's made public.
thing is, i'm not even saying bielema is right. i'm saying i don't give a shite, and i don't understand why Auburn fans think the comments are based on insecurity or fear of losing rather than a sincere concern for safety.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:36 am to WaveHog
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that'd be good to have, hope it's made public.
thing is, i'm not even saying bielema is right. i'm saying i don't give a shite, and i don't understand why Auburn fans think the comments are based on insecurity or fear of losing rather than a sincere concern for safety.
I agree, I can see Bert and Sabear's side of the argument, but I guess we are not as insecure as the Auburn fans here who know the offense is the only chance they have at winning since their defense is going to continue to suck.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:36 am to DaleDenton
I just can't wrap my head around this being serious. It's not like hits to the head or something. If you're too fat to play a series straight you need to improve your conditioning.
And I don't think Gus has done more as a CFB HC than BB at all. I just think Arky is a longer term project since he has Petrino style players and not his own type. I am not sure if he can beat bama and Lsu at their own game without the best recruits but I think BB is a good coach.
And I don't think Gus has done more as a CFB HC than BB at all. I just think Arky is a longer term project since he has Petrino style players and not his own type. I am not sure if he can beat bama and Lsu at their own game without the best recruits but I think BB is a good coach.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:37 am to DaleDenton
I believe its gus wife job to make him feel insecure. I sure wouldn't feel safe sleeping with that crazy chick.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:37 am to WaveHog
quote:Because it is an illegitimate concern that lacks reason and appears to be born out of insecurity and an anti-competitive nature.
think the comments are based on insecurity or fear of losing rather than a sincere concern for safety.
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