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re: Does all the SEC think Jayden should win the Heisman?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:05 pm to SG_Geaux
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:05 pm to SG_Geaux
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Have you seen the LSU Defense?
Yes. But that still doesn’t change the fact that the quarterback position has more impact on wins and losses than any other position on the field and is the de facto leader of the team.
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Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:06 pm to HighTide_ATL
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Penix went 27/42 for 275yds, no TDs and 2 INTs against Ariz St
They won that game because of the defense you claim he lacks
Washington is ranked 99th in defense & 185th in rushing offense. The whole team is Penix's arm.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:09 pm to captdalton
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captdalton
after reading your posts,I'm going to go out on a limb and say you didn't think Burrow should have won the Heisman,either.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:11 pm to AMac
No, the fans didn't earn it
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:11 pm to captdalton
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A quarterback has more input on wins and losses than any other position on the field.
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A Heisman quarterback needs to elevate the whole team to another level
If LSU had even a slightly below average defense instead of an all-time historically bad one, the team is sniffing playoffs right now. He has done everything he can short of taking over defensive play calling duties to rally the team. He can’t just blink his eyes and magically “elevate” anything. That’s just not how it works
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:12 pm to AMac
I think so. And I think Bo Nix is better than Penix. Beck from UGA is being overlooked because he wasn't being hyped preseason.
And, as much as I loathe to say it, because I don't like Deion, his son might be deserving of an invite. Their offensive approach/OL has resulted in him being under pressure constantly and he's still putting up great numbers.
And, as much as I loathe to say it, because I don't like Deion, his son might be deserving of an invite. Their offensive approach/OL has resulted in him being under pressure constantly and he's still putting up great numbers.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:13 pm to I-59 Tiger
Burrow absolutely should have won the Heisman. He did exactly what I said in my first post, he elevated his team to another level and won a national championship. That year it was pretty simple who should win it. This year it is not as simple.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:15 pm to captdalton
quote:Neither of those teams had terrible defenses like LSU does this year. That Auburn D was very opportunistic, lead by Nick Fairley.
Think Cam Newton or Jameis Winston turning 8-4 teams into national champs.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:21 pm to AMac
I hope you find the validation you're seeking.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:21 pm to AMac
I think I've developed a reputation as being a reasonable person, and I can say that I think Jayden Daniels is not the best player in the country this year.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:23 pm to captdalton
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He is the defacto leader of the team. A Heisman quarterback needs to elevate the whole team to another level. Think Cam Newton or Jameis Winston turning 8-4 teams into national champs.
This isn’t an 8-4 team. This is a 4 win team without him Daniels.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:28 pm to captdalton
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Think Cam Newton or Jameis Winston turning 8-4 teams into national champ
Lolwut. All 22 starters for FSU started in the NFL.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:32 pm to AMac
If Bowers had not have gotten hurt, he should win it. He's the best player in the country at any position. Probably STILL should win it, but again...as we all know, what 'should' happen with the Heisman rarely does happen.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:32 pm to Old Money
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This isn’t an 8-4 team. This is a 4 win team without him Daniels
This may be true. But I think most Heisman voters consider LSU to be a 7 or 8 win team without him. He may win it. If he just obliterates A&M, and he should, it will help him tremendously. I am not hating on Daniels. I already said he is quite possibly the best quarterback in the country. I just don’t think he is the Heisman winner at this point.
Right or wrong, the Heisman voting process is very political and very regionalized. I just don’t see Daniels winning it, whether he is deserving or not.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:32 pm to AMac
Yes
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:39 pm to AlterDWI
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Washington is ranked 99th in defense & 185th in rushing offense. The whole team is Penix's arm.
This is such a simple minded take on the statistics.
LSU’s rushing offense is so much better than Washington’s BECAUSE of DANIELS. He is LSU’s leading rusher and will finish the season with over 1000 yard’s rushing.
On top of being close to equal to Penix in passing statistics.
Penix’s rushing stats for the year. 20 carries for -27 yards.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:44 pm to AMac
He's the best player in the country and that's who it's supposed to go to last I checked. I was proud of how the Bama defense defended him but he still got his and kept them in the game for the most part. Not his fault that D is non existent.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:49 pm to AMac
Given his current stats and if he keeps that up, Yes!
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:53 pm to captdalton
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Right or wrong, the Heisman voting process is very political and very regionalized. I just don’t see Daniels winning it, whether he is deserving or not.
I agree with this, unfortunately
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:57 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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but I would have to give it to Penix at the moment.
Why is that.... just because of Wins and Losses, and not stats?
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