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re: Does a 1 loss Bama or UGA(SEC runner up) trump
Posted on 10/28/17 at 6:34 am to Lonnie Utah
Posted on 10/28/17 at 6:34 am to Lonnie Utah
quote:But will dey? I have no clue about either team, but ND rolls, 31-20.
It will be a moot point when NCSU beats ND today.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:45 am to Masterag
Hell no! A one loss Notre Dame team will always get the benefit of the doubt. You can take that to the bank.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:50 am to Masterag


Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:07 am to Masterag
I don’t think it’s fair, especially because I’m a UGA fan. But I do think the committee set the prescedence last year taking tOSU over a clearly more deserving PSU.
ND with one loss is a lock, they are the only truly national brand. I’m not talking about teams( Bama, Miami, tOSU USC) having a national following of band wagoners when the are winning. But come win or loss a true national following.
The $$$$$ can’t be walked away from,
at 11-1 ND is a lock.
I do think Bama could get in as well with 1 loss to UGA, I really don’t think the Dawgs get the flip side of that.
UGA has to win SEC to get in, unfortunately.
However, I’ve always said I though CONF champs should be the only ones to get in from P5 confs, it would do be hippocritical to change my mind now.
ND with one loss is a lock, they are the only truly national brand. I’m not talking about teams( Bama, Miami, tOSU USC) having a national following of band wagoners when the are winning. But come win or loss a true national following.
The $$$$$ can’t be walked away from,
at 11-1 ND is a lock.
I do think Bama could get in as well with 1 loss to UGA, I really don’t think the Dawgs get the flip side of that.
UGA has to win SEC to get in, unfortunately.
However, I’ve always said I though CONF champs should be the only ones to get in from P5 confs, it would do be hippocritical to change my mind now.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:59 am to dawgsjw
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Just like when UGA finished the season on fire but didn't win the East. The argument was that if you can't win your own division, you don't deserve to go the 'ship. Well we saw how that changed when Bama/LSU did the same thing a year or two later and had a rematch for the Natty.
Yeah, you realize Oklahoma did the same thing just a few years before us, too, right?
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:08 am to Masterag
Georgia should, seeing how they won at Notre Dame and their only loss would be to Alabama.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:09 am to S1C EM
And Ohio St did it last year.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:11 am to Masterag
Nope. Notre Dame's strength of schedule is much better than both Bama and Georgia. The Irish wins out and they are in no matter what
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:16 am to bigpapamac
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And Ohio St did it last year.
Yes, I know. I'm just making the point that it actually happened before our 2007 season. We've been bookended by the double-standard, unfortunately.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:17 am to Giant Leaf
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Giant Queef
Clearly you missed the part where PSU had two losses in 2016... There was the triangle of tOSU>Mich>PSU>tOSU... Plus PSU had one additional bad loss. Two loss conference champ vs one loss non-champ with a better resume.
Doesn't mean it can't happen but you're not comparing apples to apples.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:17 am to ipodking
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Nope. Notre Dame's strength of schedule is much better than both Bama and Georgia. The Irish wins out and they are in no matter what
But....but....but..........
4 AND 8!!!

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. But you know. ND is just a bad team because....last year and all.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:28 am to bigpapamac
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Ohio St did it last year
Penn State had two losses last year. Not the same situation.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:29 am to Masterag
If its a close loss to Bama then UGA certainly should. They beat ND on their home field starting a true freshman qb and holding ND to like 60 yards rushing.
ND has a decent strength of schedule, and I'm not arguing against that, but I think it is probably a little overblown by the media. They are profiting a bit from beating teams that are actually over-ranked imo. Anyone who has watched USC before they got stomped by ND knows they are not a very good football team, and should not have been ranked 11 going into that game. Just like anyone who has watched a team like Stanford knows they don't belong in the top 25; hopefully Stanford drops another game or two by the time they play ND so that when ND beats them by 3 tds it won't be seen as a true 'quality' win. Idk much about Mich state, just that they beat a Michigan team who has no offense. Maybe that is a true quality win for ND, I'm not sure though tbh.
NC State is a good team, probably their best remaining opponent imo. That would be a quality win for sure. Miami is undefeated but they have not dominated a single team they have played, all their games go down to the wire and I would not say they are an elite football team, heck even Richt said that after their last win. But if ND beats them in Miami, it would be a solid victory.
The bottom line is ND lost to the best team they have played, which was UGA, at their own stadium. But if they go 11-1 it will certainly be hard to keep them out. UGA would need to lose by a td or less in a competitive SECCG to have any chance to get in ahead of them.
ND has a decent strength of schedule, and I'm not arguing against that, but I think it is probably a little overblown by the media. They are profiting a bit from beating teams that are actually over-ranked imo. Anyone who has watched USC before they got stomped by ND knows they are not a very good football team, and should not have been ranked 11 going into that game. Just like anyone who has watched a team like Stanford knows they don't belong in the top 25; hopefully Stanford drops another game or two by the time they play ND so that when ND beats them by 3 tds it won't be seen as a true 'quality' win. Idk much about Mich state, just that they beat a Michigan team who has no offense. Maybe that is a true quality win for ND, I'm not sure though tbh.
NC State is a good team, probably their best remaining opponent imo. That would be a quality win for sure. Miami is undefeated but they have not dominated a single team they have played, all their games go down to the wire and I would not say they are an elite football team, heck even Richt said that after their last win. But if ND beats them in Miami, it would be a solid victory.
The bottom line is ND lost to the best team they have played, which was UGA, at their own stadium. But if they go 11-1 it will certainly be hard to keep them out. UGA would need to lose by a td or less in a competitive SECCG to have any chance to get in ahead of them.
This post was edited on 10/28/17 at 9:34 am
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:32 am to wertheimer
How pissed would the rest of the country be if three of the four playoff spots are Bama, UGA and Notre Dame?
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:41 am to ipodking
If they have the best resumes, can't really argue against them. Those 3 have looked the most dominant of any team so far
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