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re: Didn't know bama's troubled past...
Posted on 12/30/20 at 9:46 am to SouthernInsanity
Posted on 12/30/20 at 9:46 am to SouthernInsanity
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was that bad.
You know what's really bad?
Not even having a double-digit win total at home in 125 years against your most bitter rival.
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:02 am to SouthernInsanity
At least we did not steal money from a children's hospital
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:07 am to SidewalkTiger
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SidewalkTiger
^^^^welched on a pledge for donations for a guy whose wife died^^^^
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:09 am to BLG
"Allegedly"
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:38 am to antibarner
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Bama gave players too many books and the players might have sold a few.
Here's the thing....they didn't sell any. The NCAA report even says every textbook given to players was either returned or was paid for by the student if they didn't return it. And we had to vacate wins for that?
Meanwhile Oklahoma has both their starting QB and a OL take thousands from a booster for a no-show job and they had their vacated wins restored on appeal. But the NCAA favors Alabama
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:43 am to SouthernInsanity
People forget that there were sanctions levied in 95 to the tune of 24 schollies over 3 years and levied again to 28 schollies over 3 years in 2002. It takes u 3 years to recover AFTER the sanctions end. You don't see poor records like that if we hadn't gone through ncaa hell for basically 10 years. It's why franchione was hired instead of butch Davis. Davis didn't want to deal with another post sanction rebuild and then we had to hire shula because nobody wanted the sanctions.
Bama did it, got punished, moved on but these folks on here that say the ncaa doesn't do anything to Bama don't know what the frick they're talking about.
Bama did it, got punished, moved on but these folks on here that say the ncaa doesn't do anything to Bama don't know what the frick they're talking about.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:50 am to TouchdownTony
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but these folks on here that say the ncaa doesn't do anything to Bama don't know what the frick they're talking about.
This from a dumbass who says some dumb shite like this
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2019, bama is missing FIVE starters in the front 7, backup tailback is out, BOTH tight ends, BOTH lbers and a qb on one leg the day LSU squeaked out a 5 point win but that was an excuse.
Just making shite up
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:51 am to BamaDude06
My understanding of the 2007 Book Troubles was that the school supply/book store had a very ill-suited system for handling the athletic scholarship book vouchers. In Fall 2005 one player figured out he could just get as many books as he wanted because the voucher had no way track back on the classes the player was enrolled in for the semester. He spreads this exploit to some of his friends and eventually a dozen or more students were running the grift. They’d essentially rent or lend out books to people on their voucher. Eventually one of the players took the grift too far and it caused someone in the supply store to go red alert and audit the voucher program.
Considering this started under Shula, I doubt this was an intentional scheme. Dude was too lazy to go through the trouble of having the SUPE store run a scheme for the players. It was ultimately an information systems failure that college kids figured out how to game.
Considering this started under Shula, I doubt this was an intentional scheme. Dude was too lazy to go through the trouble of having the SUPE store run a scheme for the players. It was ultimately an information systems failure that college kids figured out how to game.
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:54 am to SidewalkTiger
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SidewalkTiger
47.6 posts a day.
Incredible.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:55 am to Sid E Walker
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SidewalkTiger
47.6 posts a day.
over 18,000 in a year. The guy has no life
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:56 am to Sid E Walker
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47.6 posts a day.
Incredible.
Elite level deflection.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:58 am to BLG
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over 18,000 in a year. The guy has no life
Thats now 10 posts about my lack of having a life by you.
Seems I'm on your mind quite a bit.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
I honestly don’t see how you can do it. That’s either insane or obsessed. Or possibly both, I guess.
And then to keep tabs on how many times I comment on your posting proclivities is a bit unnerving.
But you just go on being you, ST!
And then to keep tabs on how many times I comment on your posting proclivities is a bit unnerving.
But you just go on being you, ST!
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:04 pm to Diego Ricardo
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2007 Book Troubles
I guarantee this was going on everywhere and commonplace among all scholarships with book inclusions.
A large portion of it was a loophole I, myself, backed into on academic scholarships in the mid-90s. My scholarship covered books and classes between 12-18 credit hours. If I dropped a class and returned the book, depending on when I returned the book, I'd get full price or a significant portion back in cash. There was no accountability for it, and no eyeballs raised so long as I stayed a full time student.
I never intentionally signed up for classes with the intention of dropping the class and pocketing the ~100+ bucks for the book. But, I did benefit from dropped classes multiple semesters.
I was not surprised when it came out. I was surprised at Alabama actually being punished for it. Very dumb. It was just the NCAA being pissy, as the Langham and Means events had left them looking dumb.
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:04 pm to Sid E Walker
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I honestly don’t see how you can do it. That’s either insane or obsessed. Or possibly both, I guess.
Posting a lot makes someone insane or obsessed?
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And then to keep tabs on how many times I comment on your posting proclivities is a bit unnerving.
That wasn't even directed to you. Above each post there is a helpful place that shows whom the reply is directed to
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:07 pm to SidewalkTiger
It's ok, we all know the state of Alabama is an open sewer. Football is all they have but once Saban retires then they'll go back to being average again for 20 years.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:08 pm to SidewalkTiger
Also, fwiw, it sucked how many injuries Alabama had in 2019 and they were considerable enough to essentially end the honest attempt at the CFP by August. They were lucky the SEC was awful and got stuck with Duke in the opener after signing for a game to be named later to land the #3 FSU game in 2017. Also, landing Michigan in the Citrus Bowl was pretty clutch too...Alabama probably loses if they’d played the boatrowers from soda instead.
Ultimately, I doubt any team in Alabama’s roster talent level could handle having injuries almost tactically hitting specific position groups. No telling how bad that season would’ve been if they didn’t have 2 NFL QBs and 4 1st round NFL WRs on offense.
Ultimately, I doubt any team in Alabama’s roster talent level could handle having injuries almost tactically hitting specific position groups. No telling how bad that season would’ve been if they didn’t have 2 NFL QBs and 4 1st round NFL WRs on offense.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:12 pm to jodeaux
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It's ok, we all know the state of Alabama is an open sewer. Football is all they have but once Saban retires then they'll go back to being average again for 20 years.
and yet, won more conference titles than UGA did in the years between when Bryant retired and Saban was hired, and won a national title too. UGA, well, you know....1980
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:14 pm to Diego Ricardo
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My understanding of the 2007 Book Troubles was that the school supply/book store had a very ill-suited system for handling the athletic scholarship book vouchers.
The vast majority of the issue was that athletic scholarships were just supposed to apply to required books, but several classes also have "suggested" books. They system allowed athletes to get books from the suggested list. These were often not much more than pamphlets. Most of our sports got hit with it and most of the athletes didn't know they were doing anything wrong.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:21 pm to BLG
The only ways I see Alabama immediately ending up in the ditch:
1) Saban sticks around too long and there is a noticeable decline under his leadership
2) They just really screw the pooch on the hiring process following Saban’s retirement
I get the feeling Alabama could very well have a Les Miles type coach lead a gradual decline on the field but not considerably lowering the talent on the roster. Very likely if like Miles this hypothetical coach cashes in a conference and national title with a roster mostly built by the last staff. I think what you’ve seen in Baton Rouge and even East Lansing to some extent is that Saban leaves behind a good blueprint on how a modern football program should be run.
I do not think Saban overstaying is going to be a problem. I doubt he’ll quit mid-season like Spurrier but he’ll get out when he realizes he ain’t got it. So it is really just on how bad they do in the replacement search. The replacement will very likely have a lot of talent to work with early...
1) Saban sticks around too long and there is a noticeable decline under his leadership
2) They just really screw the pooch on the hiring process following Saban’s retirement
I get the feeling Alabama could very well have a Les Miles type coach lead a gradual decline on the field but not considerably lowering the talent on the roster. Very likely if like Miles this hypothetical coach cashes in a conference and national title with a roster mostly built by the last staff. I think what you’ve seen in Baton Rouge and even East Lansing to some extent is that Saban leaves behind a good blueprint on how a modern football program should be run.
I do not think Saban overstaying is going to be a problem. I doubt he’ll quit mid-season like Spurrier but he’ll get out when he realizes he ain’t got it. So it is really just on how bad they do in the replacement search. The replacement will very likely have a lot of talent to work with early...
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