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re: Did you know LSU thinks the SEC schedule...?
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:13 pm to RT1941
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:13 pm to RT1941
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Saban's been saying this for years, and every SEC program votes that shite down every time. Why?
Saban's teams don't have to worry about winning 6 games to make a bowl, or getting to 8 or 9 wins in order to reach a certain threshold to keep his job.
Under a 9 game conference schedule (along with the 1 required OOC game against a Power 5 team), schools like Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Arkansas, etc. would lose 1 likely guaranteed win a season.
Some years, they might need that win to make a bowl game and get the revenue and extra practice time.
ETA: Yes, teams like LSU, Auburn, and Tennessee could find themselves in this situation too. I'm just using traditionally mediocre SEC teams as my example.
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:14 pm to BayouBengals03
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Saban's teams don't have to worry about winning 6 games to make a bowl, or getting to 8 or 9 wins in order to reach a certain threshold to keep his job.
Under a 9 game conference schedule (along with the 1 required OOC game against a Power 5 team), schools like Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Arkansas, etc. would lose 1 likely guaranteed win a season.
Some years, they might need that win to make a bowl game and get the revenue and extra practice time.
I understand the self preservation factor that the non-Big 6 have, but Saban has been on an island with this. LSU, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, Auburn all voted against it as well. I know that Florida, Georgia and South Carolina are against it because of their yearly ACC games and how restrictive that would make their scheduling, but I don't quite understand Tennessee and LSU.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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but I don't quite understand Tennessee and LSU.
I'm sure it has something to do with Tennessee having to play Alabama every year and LSU having to play Florida every year. Not saying that is a legitimate reason, just trying to relay what they're thinking.
Although LSU has dominated Florida lately, the Gators lead the all-time series. So, in theory, LSU will lose about half the time to Florida.
Obviously, there have been stretches where Tennessee has dominated Alabama. However, since this 9-game schedule discussion has come up, Alabama has been dominant, and Tennessee has been very average at best.
It's hard for schools to look at things long-term, whenever it could hurt them a lot in the short term. That's just natural.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I understand the self preservation factor that the non-Big 6 have, but Saban has been on an island with this. LSU, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, Auburn all voted against it as well. I know that Florida, Georgia and South Carolina are against it because of their yearly ACC games and how restrictive that would make their scheduling, but I don't quite understand Tennessee and LSU.
Bc F Bama lol
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:20 pm to BayouBengals03
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I'm sure it has something to do with Tennessee having to play Alabama every year and LSU having to play Florida every year. Not saying that is a legitimate reason, just trying to relay what they're thinking.
Although LSU has dominated Florida lately, the Gators lead the all-time series. So, in theory, LSU will lose about half the time to Florida.
Obviously, there have been stretches where Tennessee has dominated Alabama. However, since this 9-game schedule discussion has come up, Alabama has been dominant, and Tennessee has been very average at best.
It's hard for schools to look at things long-term, whenever it could hurt them a lot in the short term. That's just natural.
I figured it was one of those no point in sticking your neck out unless you know it will pass kind of things. I can't think Les or Tennessee have any real issues with 9 games, but no reason going to bat for something like that when you know it will fail.
Saban can do whatever he wants, so he doesn't care about blowback.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:20 pm to cyogi
how has that worked out? 
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:24 pm to SummerOfGeorge
That too.
I don't think LSU would have any problem with it.
Plus, people give Les shite when comparing him to some of his predecessors, because he has had a lot more rent-a-wins than any of those coaches did. With another legitimate conference game (against the current shitty East), that would be another good win for him, so I don't think he'd mind.
It's not like LSU will ever be in danger of missing a bowl as long as Les is here and pulling in top 5-10 classes.
I don't think LSU would have any problem with it.
Plus, people give Les shite when comparing him to some of his predecessors, because he has had a lot more rent-a-wins than any of those coaches did. With another legitimate conference game (against the current shitty East), that would be another good win for him, so I don't think he'd mind.
It's not like LSU will ever be in danger of missing a bowl as long as Les is here and pulling in top 5-10 classes.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:27 pm to BayouBengals03
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That too.
I don't think LSU would have any problem with it.
Plus, people give Les shite when comparing him to some of his predecessors, because he has had a lot more rent-a-wins than any of those coaches did. With another legitimate conference game (against the current shitty East), that would be another good win for him, so I don't think he'd mind.
It's not like LSU will ever be in danger of missing a bowl as long as Les is here and pulling in top 5-10 classes.
Yea, and LSU has played really good OOC games since he showed up to (and he wins ALL of them)
@ Arizona State
Arizona
Virginia Tech
@ Washington
North Carolina
Oregon
@ West Virginia
Washington
TCU
Wisconsin
@ Syracuse
I mean, in the current 12 game NCAA schedule, that is about as good as you are going to do.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The single biggest issue with 9 games is the way it interferes with home/road balance.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:34 pm to wadewilson
But you'll always play 3 home and 3 away within your own division, so I'm okay with it.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:34 pm to RT1941
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Saban's been saying this for years, and every SEC program votes that shite down every time. Why?
Because adding a home/away imbalance to a schedule that already has a competitive imbalance would make the SEC regular season a bigger farce.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
LSU playing Oregon and @West Virginia in the same season may never be topped as far as OOC opponents scheduled that aren't a yearly thing.
So like, not counting Southern Cal when they play Alabama and Notre Dame next season, because they play Notre Dame every year.
ETA: Not that Southern Cal doesn't get credit for that.
So like, not counting Southern Cal when they play Alabama and Notre Dame next season, because they play Notre Dame every year.
ETA: Not that Southern Cal doesn't get credit for that.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:41 pm to BayouBengals03
It'll make big game OOC scheduling much harder.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I understand the self preservation factor that the non-Big 6 have, but Saban has been on an island with this. LSU, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, Auburn all voted against it as well. I know that Florida, Georgia and South Carolina are against it because of their yearly ACC games and how restrictive that would make their scheduling, but I don't quite understand Tennessee and LSU.
you could also look at it as losing one home game of revenue every other year. it's also still self preservation with making the CFP. Adding one more conference game presents generally one more tough game to get through, and the ADs feel the SEC is tough enough as is. I'm not saying I agree with them, as I want a 9 game SEC schedule, but I also understand where they're coming from in not wanting it.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:48 pm to wadewilson
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It'll make big game OOC scheduling much harder.
It will. But it could promote more home-and-home series instead of single neutral site games.
If LSU plays 5 road conference games, they'd want the other 7 to be at home. In years where they play 4 road conference games, they could play an away game or a neutral site game.
Teams like South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, and Kentucky would have to work it out with their ACC rivals so the years that they play 5 road conference games, they'd get the rivalry game at home that season.
Since the ACC only plays 8 conference games, and probably won't move to 9 because they have no permanent opponents in scheduling, this is feasible.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 3:01 pm to ibldprplgld
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Did you know LSU thinks the SEC schedule...?
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Jacknola thread = auto down vote.
Also cajunbama and northalabamacracker.........
Posted on 1/8/16 at 3:04 pm to BayouBengals03
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If LSU plays 5 road conference games, they'd want the other 7 to be at home. In years where they play 4 road conference games, they could play an away game or a neutral site game.
So we base this on the hope and prayer that our future schedules will align with teams we're already scheduled to play, or hope to play.
It seems the scenario with a much higher likelihood is more seasons like 2011, with all the great games we saw, only 6 of them being in Tiger Stadium.
No thanks. Toss the permanent opponent, rotate two easterns. LSU's AD voted against 9 games because it's their job to please fans with good home games, not to preserve someone else's tradition.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 3:10 pm to LSUalumnBAMAsidewalk
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Bama gets to play Arkansas earlier in the year (warmer temperature)
And Alabama always plays LSU in November, colder. They never play in BR when it's hot and humid.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 3:14 pm to wadewilson
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So we base this on the hope and prayer that our future schedules will align with teams we're already scheduled to play, or hope to play.
This won't happen until the system goes to an 8-team playoffs, so a while down the road.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 4:47 pm to Jacknola
Jacknola, you are an obsessed little Gump
If you are so sick of LSU fans in NOLA, then move to Montgomery
If you are so sick of LSU fans in NOLA, then move to Montgomery
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