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re: Did UGA really run away from Clowney?

Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:05 pm to
never said the film is a lie, I just find it funny how bent out of shape some of you are to prove ESPN is wrong by putting everything you possibly can on Clowney's shoulders while others can admit he wasn't a walking disgrace out there.


Clowney is right that the rest of the line does need to step up. He could certainly play better too, but the rest of the DL isn't spectacular either.
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:06 pm to
Months ago, when everyone was sucking this kids dick after the bowl game and everyone was having the "who is the G.O.A.T.?" convo and everyone was saying clowney... I said he was lazy, took a lot of plays off and often disappears for entire games...he hasn't shown up for a game yet this season and has an army of apologists ready with an excuse or 50 for why he isn't raping QB's and killing babies.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:07 pm to
Making excuses for Clowney like battered wives*



"but he loves me..."
Posted by goodshotred2
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2013
320 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:08 pm to
I didn't notice what coverage they were in on that play, but if we were playing cover 2, then contain is actually the corner's job if the quarterback becomes a threat to run in the flat. He played too aggressive then, and that doesn't explain the safety being nowhere to be found since he is a pass first defender in that coverage responsible for the deep ball.

should Clowney have said what he said? Probably not, but it doesn't mean it wasn't true. Georgia did indeed try to attack the side away from him which everyone expected would happen. The fact is the guys on the other side of the line need to make plays too, and they haven't stepped up. Clowney may not have played with great discipline at times, but at least he played with some effort which is more than I can say for the rest of our D that day.
Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:11 pm to
it's no use. ESPN has really gotten to these guys.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:14 pm to
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but if we were playing cover 2, then contain is actually the corner's job if the quarterback becomes a threat to run in the flat.



The qb shouldn't be rolling out on the same side that Xlowney is rushing, unless Xlowney isn't doing his job. It was not a qb run threat... it was Murray rolling out on Xlowney's side.

IE: TOWARD Clowney, and right past him.

Not AWAY from Clowney as the Goatee Nation and their media say.
This post was edited on 9/13/13 at 10:15 pm
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:17 pm to
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it's no use. ESPN has really gotten to these guys.


Riddle me this, ASAP...is ESPN responsible for the fact that he has been a non-factor in the first two games of the season?

also, I said what I said months ago while ESPN, CBS, Sports Illustrated, every other news outlet and all college football fans were jacking off in this kids shadow.
Posted by goodshotred2
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2013
320 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:22 pm to
Whatever.. I'm not standing up for the guy because he does have things to work on (like everyone else). But when you go back and objectively watch the film, he's still been pretty darn disruptive despite how heavily he factors into the opponent's gameplan.

I thought the problem was our gameplan. Very vanilla, played soft 2 high coverages all night instead of loading the box and playing press man on the WR's like we did last year. Rarely blitzed until we had too. Looked like our guys were afraid and it showed. Just mucked around out there with little intensity against an offense they knew they would have to give there all for. No doubt we got outcoached and outplayed on that side of the ball.
Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:22 pm to
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is ESPN responsible for the fact that he has been a non-factor in the first two games of the season?


no, Clowney's clear lack of ability is to blame
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:24 pm to
"but.... he loves me"
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64354 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:25 pm to
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we got outcoached


Are you saying this is the first time in 12 years that Mark Richt has actually "outcoached" someone?
Posted by athens-ga
athens, ga
Member since Jun 2013
1298 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:28 pm to
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Dude Georgia won. Get over it.
from a usc fan who gets it right.

uga fans arguing this point look small and petty. this kind of stuff being argued over makes us all seem slightly idiotic..
Posted by troywew
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:29 pm to
Clowney got that lucky hit in last year bowl game. That is all.
Posted by goodshotred2
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2013
320 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:29 pm to
Does it look like that was what I was saying?
Posted by ugastudent
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:30 pm to
IIRC uga had two wrs both run verticals. The safety chases the one inside leaving JSW open. It was just a perfect play all for that defense and Murray had enough time to make the throw
Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:31 pm to
Agreed on all parts. But since we aren't ready to run Clowney out of town right now we're clearly stuck on his dick.
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
4989 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:35 pm to
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no, Clowney's clear lack of ability is to blame


Never said anything about the kids ability...he is the Chris Webber of college football. when he shows up and is determined to own a game, he does. When he goes into a game not focused, he disappears too much. Just wonder what the kids motor is like and NFL scouts have the same questions.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12416 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:50 pm to
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quote: Dude Georgia won. Get over it. from a usc fan who gets it right. uga fans arguing this point look small and petty. this kind of stuff being argued over makes us all seem slightly idiotic..


So, what are we arguing?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 11:05 pm to
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I didn't notice what coverage they were in on that play, but if we were playing cover 2, then contain is actually the corner's job if the quarterback becomes a threat to run in the flat. He played too aggressive then, and that doesn't explain the safety being nowhere to be found since he is a pass first defender in that coverage responsible for the deep ball. should Clowney have said what he said? Probably not, but it doesn't mean it wasn't true. Georgia did indeed try to attack the side away from him which everyone expected would happen. The fact is the guys on the other side of the line need to make plays too, and they haven't stepped up. Clowney may not have played with great discipline at times, but at least he played with some effort which is more than I can say for the rest of our D that day.


The CB has outside run contain in cover 2. This is true. He does not have pocket contain, that is typically the DE unless there is a stunt with another lineman. I did not see at DT shooting to the outside. It seems to me that Xlowney was trying to take an inside move on both TD passes in order to get a sack... Instead, the Tackle, pushed him inside just enough to get Murray in the flat... The CB broke coverage off JSW who was in a settle route behind the CB in the cover 2 at the same time, either a slot or TE was running a hash route that grabbed the attention of the safety . All the time allowed for the play to develop and the CB moving up for run support allowed JSW to slip down field and by the time the safety realized he had no help, the ball was in the air and there was not catching 86.

If Xlowmey keeps contain, the play is a lot different.

Either way, this was more about the local papers quoting Xlowmey throwing his team under the bus and taking no responsibility for the loss. Getting sacks is great and the hit herd around the world was sexy, but football is a team sport and Clowney does not sound like a team player...
Posted by CocknDawg
Near Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
1274 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 11:09 pm to
Rig is right.....But when Georgia was running at him, there were usually two or three blocking him,including that beast at fullback. Georgia won that game, Carolina did not lose it.
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