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re: Did UGA really run away from Clowney?
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:11 pm to Peter Buck
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:11 pm to Peter Buck
ATHENS, Ga. – His frustrations boiled over. It was pure helplessness Jadeveon Clowney felt on the Sanford Stadium sideline, like all the muscle and speed and hype in the world meant nothing anymore.
NEXT GAME
WHO: No. 13 South Carolina (1-1) vs. Vanderbilt (1-1)
WHEN: Saturday, 7 p.m.
WHERE: Williams-Brice Stadium, Columbia
LINE: USC by 13
TV: ESPN2 or ESPNU
For a defensive player, there's only so much you can do when the other team won't run plays near your zip code.
At some point Saturday night, Clowney had enough. As the sun set in Athens, and Georgia's offensive yards kept rising thanks to a high-stakes game of keep-away, South Carolina's star defensive end marched over to his coach. Here, their roles flipped.
Clowney gave the instructions.
“I told coach, 'Man, you've got to put me somewhere else. In the middle, if you want to. I don't know, somewhere I can make some plays and help my team, put us in position to win games,'” Clowney said. “Really, they just ran the ball away from me, took me out of the game.”
Georgia had the same game plan North Carolina used in USC's opener, taking Clowney out of the game by running away from him. A Gamecocks fan may think it's an opponent playing scared. A coach would say it's smart.
Clowney has six tackles in two games this season. He doesn't rank first, second or eighth on the Gamecocks defense. No, his six are tied for 12th. The big plays that defined his game the past two years have vanished. Clowney has one sack on the season, just two tackles for loss.
Meanwhile, the Gamecocks haven't forced a turnover in either game.
USC defensive coordinator Lorenzo Ward said the Gamecocks coaching staff talked about Georgia's keep-away strategy at halftime. They tried to make adjustments. Clowney lined up at right and left defensive end in the second half. For the second straight game, he was at nose guard – in the middle of USC's defensive line.
Nothing worked.
“I'd hate to evaluate him,” Ward said after the game Saturday night. “I know he had a sack, and I thought he played hard, but everything went away from him. They ran the ball away from him the entire day.
“We've got other players on this team other than JD who have to step up and play.”
For USC, that's no surprise. The Gamecocks knew entering the season other players – such as senior defensive end Chaz Sutton and junior tackle Kelcy Quarles – had to hold their end. So far, they haven't. Sutton has seven tackles, 2.5 for loss with no sacks. Quarles has six tackles and just one sack. The linebackers are young and inexperienced, and it's showed.
After the game Saturday, coach Steve Spurrier said he'll talk with Ward this week. There will be defensive changes, something he reiterated during Sunday's teleconference – though Spurrier said he didn't want to “spill all the beans” on what would be different.
One thing's clear: finding a way to get Clowney more involved will be at the heart of USC's adjustments.
It won't be easy. Now, there's a blueprint, a proven way to limit Clowney's havoc. When USC hosts Vanderbilt on Saturday night in Columbia, it will likely face the same game plan it defended the past two weeks.
Commodores coach James Franklin said Monday his team will put a tight end on Clowney's side to “chip” block. There may be a running back in position to help block, too.
“The biggest thing is to be aware of him,” Franklin said of Clowney. “He is going to have an impact in the game, but what you can't afford him to do is have a huge impact on the game. … We need to know where he is every play because he is capable of big plays.”
That probably means playing more keep-away, which leads to more frustration. At some point, a game-changer like Clowney must change the game. Opponents can't rack up 41 points and more than 500 yards anymore, not on his watch. At some point, it begins to affect his reputation.
Clowney knows that. He knows something has to change. What it is, he left up to his coaches.
“I think I'm playing the right spot. I just can't do it by myself,” Clowney said. “You have to depend on the other guys up front, and I depend on the other guys up front. If they're running their way, I just tell them to step up, bow up and be a man, just take it on. You've got to step it up.
NEXT GAME
WHO: No. 13 South Carolina (1-1) vs. Vanderbilt (1-1)
WHEN: Saturday, 7 p.m.
WHERE: Williams-Brice Stadium, Columbia
LINE: USC by 13
TV: ESPN2 or ESPNU
For a defensive player, there's only so much you can do when the other team won't run plays near your zip code.
At some point Saturday night, Clowney had enough. As the sun set in Athens, and Georgia's offensive yards kept rising thanks to a high-stakes game of keep-away, South Carolina's star defensive end marched over to his coach. Here, their roles flipped.
Clowney gave the instructions.
“I told coach, 'Man, you've got to put me somewhere else. In the middle, if you want to. I don't know, somewhere I can make some plays and help my team, put us in position to win games,'” Clowney said. “Really, they just ran the ball away from me, took me out of the game.”
Georgia had the same game plan North Carolina used in USC's opener, taking Clowney out of the game by running away from him. A Gamecocks fan may think it's an opponent playing scared. A coach would say it's smart.
Clowney has six tackles in two games this season. He doesn't rank first, second or eighth on the Gamecocks defense. No, his six are tied for 12th. The big plays that defined his game the past two years have vanished. Clowney has one sack on the season, just two tackles for loss.
Meanwhile, the Gamecocks haven't forced a turnover in either game.
USC defensive coordinator Lorenzo Ward said the Gamecocks coaching staff talked about Georgia's keep-away strategy at halftime. They tried to make adjustments. Clowney lined up at right and left defensive end in the second half. For the second straight game, he was at nose guard – in the middle of USC's defensive line.
Nothing worked.
“I'd hate to evaluate him,” Ward said after the game Saturday night. “I know he had a sack, and I thought he played hard, but everything went away from him. They ran the ball away from him the entire day.
“We've got other players on this team other than JD who have to step up and play.”
For USC, that's no surprise. The Gamecocks knew entering the season other players – such as senior defensive end Chaz Sutton and junior tackle Kelcy Quarles – had to hold their end. So far, they haven't. Sutton has seven tackles, 2.5 for loss with no sacks. Quarles has six tackles and just one sack. The linebackers are young and inexperienced, and it's showed.
After the game Saturday, coach Steve Spurrier said he'll talk with Ward this week. There will be defensive changes, something he reiterated during Sunday's teleconference – though Spurrier said he didn't want to “spill all the beans” on what would be different.
One thing's clear: finding a way to get Clowney more involved will be at the heart of USC's adjustments.
It won't be easy. Now, there's a blueprint, a proven way to limit Clowney's havoc. When USC hosts Vanderbilt on Saturday night in Columbia, it will likely face the same game plan it defended the past two weeks.
Commodores coach James Franklin said Monday his team will put a tight end on Clowney's side to “chip” block. There may be a running back in position to help block, too.
“The biggest thing is to be aware of him,” Franklin said of Clowney. “He is going to have an impact in the game, but what you can't afford him to do is have a huge impact on the game. … We need to know where he is every play because he is capable of big plays.”
That probably means playing more keep-away, which leads to more frustration. At some point, a game-changer like Clowney must change the game. Opponents can't rack up 41 points and more than 500 yards anymore, not on his watch. At some point, it begins to affect his reputation.
Clowney knows that. He knows something has to change. What it is, he left up to his coaches.
“I think I'm playing the right spot. I just can't do it by myself,” Clowney said. “You have to depend on the other guys up front, and I depend on the other guys up front. If they're running their way, I just tell them to step up, bow up and be a man, just take it on. You've got to step it up.
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:18 pm to Peter Buck
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Seems like Xlowney was in the middle on the first TD and scared Murray rolled to his side and threw TDs on the last two highlights... This film is clearly a lie as UGA ran all plays away from him as stated by Xlowney and the Goatee Nation... Maybe he should have jumped or something ?
Seems like Xlowney was in the middle on the first TD and scared Murray rolled to his side and threw TDs on the last two highlights... This film is clearly a lie as UGA ran all plays away from him as stated by Xlowney and the Goatee Nation... Maybe he should have jumped or something ?
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:18 pm to Peter Buck
yeah, it's totally Clowney's fault that Murray was able to hit a wide receiver 15 yards open down field for a 80+ yard TD 
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:19 pm to A$AP Cocky
ASAP, did or did not Murray roll to the side Clowney was on?
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:21 pm to Peter Buck
sure, when did I say Murray didn't roll to his side though?
It's stupid as frick to put that TD on Clowney.
It's stupid as frick to put that TD on Clowney.
This post was edited on 9/13/13 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:26 pm to A$AP Cocky
ASAP , do you know much about tackle football ?
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:28 pm to Peter Buck
nah not at all
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:30 pm to A$AP Cocky
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yeah, it's totally Clowney's fault that Murray was able to hit a wide receiver 15 yards open down field for a 80+ yard TD
Don't you know its always Clonwey's fault now.
Shaw's fumble? Clowney's fault
Shitty 4th and goal call? Clowney's fault too
85 yard TD on 3rd and 15? You're damn right its Clowney's fault. He responsible for the safety and corner communicating their coverage's.
Run goes for 5 yards away from Clowney? Thats his fault too because hes suppose to be an omnipresent demigod on the football field like ESPN told us.
Clowney can't live up to the ridiculous expectations placed on him by ESPN? Well thats his fault too for letting the hype get to his head
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:30 pm to A$AP Cocky
That's what it appears... May I offer you a teaching moment?
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:31 pm to Peter Buck
yeah, please teach me how a DE chasing the QB out of the pocket is responsible for a WR being wide arse open 30 yards down the field.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:35 pm to A$AP Cocky
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yeah, please teach me how a DE chasing the QB out of the pocket is responsible for a WR being wide arse open 30 yards down the field.
DE is supposed to contain the QB.
Clowney actually played pretty good for the most part, but UGA had an excellent gameplan for him. When I saw Quarles and Sutton weren't making plays, I knew we had a good chance at winning.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:36 pm to A$AP Cocky
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A$AP Cocky Did UGA really run away from Clowney? yeah, please teach me how a DE chasing the QB out of the pocket is responsible for a WR being wide arse open 30 yards down the field.
Should a DE be "chasing" a QB out of the pocket on the side he is lined up on?
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:40 pm to dhuck20
and if the Secondary had any semblance of coverage on that play, Murray is forced to pick up yards on his feet and makes it about 2 yards before running out of bounds.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:42 pm to Peter Buck
no, Clowney took the wrong route to the QB on the play. I accept that. That still doesn't mean the TD is his fault when there is supposed to be someone back there covering the wide receiver who has nothing but green grass around him.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:44 pm to A$AP Cocky
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no, Clowney took the wrong route to the QB on the play. I accept that. That still doesn't mean the TD is his fault when there is supposed to be someone back there covering the wide receiver who has nothing but green grass around him.
Noone is sayng any td's are Xlowney's fault.
We are saying he played like shite and what's worse is that he actually threw the rest of his team under the bus.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:47 pm to A$AP Cocky
They were in cover 2 and Murray rolling sucked up the CB and the WR slipped into the soft part of that defense which is the sideline. That does not happen if Clowney does his job and contains.
Similar to the TD pass to Gurley. The game is not all on Clowney, but for him to say in that article that he can't do it by himself and that other players need to step up is total horseshite ... It should start with him and the film does not lie...
Similar to the TD pass to Gurley. The game is not all on Clowney, but for him to say in that article that he can't do it by himself and that other players need to step up is total horseshite ... It should start with him and the film does not lie...
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:48 pm to Peter Buck
I get a * for Xlowney... Btw
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:49 pm to Peter Buck
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Xlowney
I realize this is probably a typo, but I like it
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:59 pm to deeprig9
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Clowney actually played pretty good for the most part, but UGA had an excellent gameplan for him
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We are saying he played like shite
Posted on 9/13/13 at 10:03 pm to A$AP Cocky
The film is a lie because you found a UGA fan who thinks Xlowney played pretty good.
Congratulations.
What about Xlowney throwing his team under the bus to protect his own draft stock?
Congratulations.
What about Xlowney throwing his team under the bus to protect his own draft stock?
This post was edited on 9/13/13 at 10:04 pm
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