re: Did UF fans ever apologize to TJGator?

Doesn't that have something to do with Muschamp being told to "clean up" the Florida program?

He was only at Florida for 4 years. I understand higher expectations are a thing at Florida, but you're talking like he was at Florida for 5+ years.

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"My first day on the job, I sat with our president, Dr. Bernie Machen, and he came in my office one-on-one and shut the door, and he said, 'Clean it up.' And we did that," Muschamp said. "We left the program much better than we inherited it. It didn't end the way we wanted it to, but we graduated our players, had the highest grade-point average in school history for consecutive semesters my last four semesters there, and we did things the right way."

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Urban Meyer was a dirty fricker, and Muschamp was the sacrificial lamb to come in and try to straighten things out.

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Negative guys always get slammed, and hard. Seems like most of the time, they are correct though. From the Butch doubters, to the Bert doubters. Seems once fans start worrying, there is a general reason for concern.

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This is a bit misleading. They are correct more often than they're not because it's a very challenging job to do well. Most HC hires are not homeruns... it's just the reality of the situation. Only one team can "win it all"... each conference can have its winner of course, and then depending on the conference, maybe 2-3 guys at any given time can be seen as doing "enough", and then the rest of the teams are largely seen as trying to catch up...

So if we use the SEC as an example, more or less the only 4 coaches that are completely "safe" right now are Saban, Gus, Mullen, & Smart. And with that said, Gus started the season on somewhat of a warm seat at the least... so 10/14 coaches are at best playing catchup... if you give Mason a pass because Vandy... you're still at 9/14 that aren't exactly lighting it up right now. Similar, albeit maybe slightly lower, numbers would be seen across other conferences if you were to really look into it.

Ultimately, it's easy to be negative and be right because the hire is so difficult... there are only a handful of guys that people even *want* to hire at any given time... of those, a small handful are going to actually work out.

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Muschamp is about 10% responsible for some of the shitty play.

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Ironic, considering that there is considerable sentiment on tRant that Muschamp, who was at AU all of 11 months, is at least 70% responsible for AU's defensive improvement in the past season and a half (oh, and that Steele is an idiot who just got lucky to follow Boom at AU).

I suppose its possible that both contentions are true.

While I agree, should programs like Tenn, Florida, and LSU sit by and be okay with not playing at a high level? If the evidence is there the coach is not good enough, is it not time to find a new one? I'm very worried we become Richt's Georgia. Win just enough, but never win it all. Mac will beat teams he should. He will also continue to lose to equal teams. He had some bad luck this year, but it's not about what's missing player wise. It's the basic fundamentals he lacks. Game management, adjusting gameplans, clock management, tackling fundamentals, and shockingly...getting plays in..Serious..he can't even get plays on the field correctly and efficiently.


For three years, one game I have said...man Mac nailed it.

I can think of ten games, right now, where I was wondering wtf is going on on the sidelines. That..is kind of all I need to confirm my notion he simply isn't the guy.

I think more of the fans agree with him about Mac but the sunshine pampers are still pumping sunshine like they always do.

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Unless he could forsee 9 scholarship players including the best WR and starting RB getting kicked off the team the week of the opener and then forsee the most effective QB (along with several other contributors) lost for the year to injuries before the halfway point then he wasn't anything but lucky.

Florida is playing with FCS level numbers and missing their best weapons at literally every skill position on the offensive side of the ball.

The fact that you've remained competitive in that situation instead of turning into a complete shaitshow is a compliment to, rather than an indictment of, the staff.

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Regardless of your excuses about the suspensions, it doesn't seem like you've watched any of their games.

Suspended players have nothing to do with the coaching staff consistently having trouble getting the playcall in within 40 seconds. That's just pee wee level incompetence.

What is truly unbelievable is that there are still quite a few sunshine pumpers. The offense is an abomination, and has been for 3 seasons now.

If you think the games are bad look at our defensive recruiting. The 2015, 2016, and so far DT and secondary classes have been complete disasters. No DTs signed in 2015, 2016, none so far in this class. 1 main contributor from the secondary classes from 2015 &16.

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Nope. Straws likes to make every excuse to not blame Mac. He's still doing it now. There are others who do the same. They're still blaming WM for the problems.

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Straws was in the Fields recruiting thread taking ban bets because he was so adamant that Fields will not go to UGA.

Dude has to be the WORST UF poster on the site.