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re: Did Butch Jones really ride Brian Kelly's coattails?

Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:45 pm to
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Quick, someone post Butch's record at CMU.



27-13
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:45 pm to
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The best pros out of CMU and Cincinatti were brought in by Jones.


Examples?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:46 pm to
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Truth hurts


it's not true, so not sure why it would hurt

And Kelly record at CMU is better because kelly turned the shite program around and gifted it to jones
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:46 pm to
Nobody tries to shine a turd like ole Fulmer.
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:47 pm to
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Examples?


Dan LeFevour, A Kelly recruit and first year player, not jones
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:48 pm to
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Dan LeFevour, A Kelly recruit and first year player, not jones


Only person I could come up with as well.
Posted by FulmersGonnaFixIt
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:49 pm to
19-16 with 1 conference title > 27-13 with 2 conference titles

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:49 pm to
Zach Collaros, kelly player and recruit
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:49 pm to
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19-16 with 1 conference title > 27-13 with 2 conference titles


You dumb if you think that proves your point
Posted by gideon
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:51 pm to
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Dan LeFevour, A Kelly recruit and first year player, not jones


Joe Staley. the only pro bowler from either school.
Posted by FulmersGonnaFixIt
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:52 pm to
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You dumb if you think that proves your point



So he did better than Kelly could even do with Kelly's players?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:53 pm to
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Joe Staley. the only pro bowler from either school.


So a kelly recruit as well
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:55 pm to
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So he did better than Kelly could even do with Kelly's players?


Well considering kelly started with a dumster fire and gifted him a better program, yes he had a better "record", thats about it.
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:55 pm to
at this point, it doesn't matter how Jones got where he is currently... but to gloss over the fact that Kelly had success immediately before BJ took the jobs doesn't tell the whole story.

Jones has been fortunate enough to inherit a couple of programs on solid footing... UT is anything but solid. How good is Jones at rebuilding a program?... no one knows b/c he hasn't done it yet (which doesn't necessarily mean he can't do it).
Posted by FulmersGonnaFixIt
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:56 pm to
Nick Bellore, LBer NYJets

Josh Gordy, DB, Colts

Another OT was brought in by Butch will be a first rounder this year.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:57 pm to
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Jones has been fortunate enough to inherit a couple of programs on solid footing... UT is anything but solid. How good is Jones at rebuilding a program?... no one knows b/c he hasn't done it yet (which doesn't necessarily mean he can't do it).

this, thus my,now he's following Dooley's footsteps comment.
Posted by FulmersGonnaFixIt
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:58 pm to
Kelly's Sugar Bowl team was great. Too bad it was the senior class of Mark Dantonio recruiting. :(
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:58 pm to
Yes
Posted by gideon
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 3:59 pm to
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Kelly's Sugar Bowl team was great. Too bad it was the senior class of Mark Dantonio recruiting. :(


notre dame better hire dantonio to recruit a couple of cycles if Kelly ever plans on winning a BCS game.
This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 4:00 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 4:00 pm to
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Josh Gordy, DB, Colts


Kelly recruit and player

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Nick Bellore, LBer NYJets


ahh you got one, not sure I would be proud of it though
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