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re: Deboer just needs time to recruit better players onto his roster

Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:25 am to
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:25 am to
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3down10
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:25 am to
Bama could use a whole new offense and defense.

Keep RW though. The punter can stay as well.

Everyone else just needs to go.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:26 am to
DeBoer needs to recruit some players that aren't selfish thugs. I don't care how many stars they have next to their name, way too many Bama players seem to be playing for themselves rather than the team.

How many years the last 3 was Saban's team one of the most penalized? Now we're seeing it continuing under DeBoer. Saban was good enough to overcome all of it because he was the GOAT. DeBoer can't.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:27 am to
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Steve Spurrier when he went to SC went from a passing focused attack to a ball control attack... because that was the talent he had.


I see what you're getting at but this doesn't help your point. USC even under Spurrier was very mediocre.

Beating Florida and Bama were his only bright spots there really.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:28 am to
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PS: Urban Meyer only won NC's with big QB's who could fall forward over and over. No clue what the hell you are talking about.


Chris Leak was UF's QB for Meyer's first national championship. He was 5'11". His highest rushing total for a season at UF was 81 yards (in 105 attempts).

Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
5581 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:30 am to
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He should’ve never brought back Milroe. Milroe is not a good QB
Deboer was forced to do so for several reasons Saban created. Also, Saban played Milroe. If Deboer played Simpson over Milroe, it would be like saying that Saban played the wrong player they year before. Its a shiit show that is going to take some balls to fix. Maybe even losing some players. And the that doesn't appear to be Deboer's strong skill set.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:32 am to
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Chris Leak was UF's QB for Meyer's first national championship. He was 5'11". His highest rushing total for a season at UF was 81 yards (in 105 attempts).


Oh, so I imagined all the playing time Tim Tebow got that year making big plays in crucial games.

My bad.



Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:32 am to
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Beating Florida and Bama were his only bright spots there really.


Steve Spurrier took SC to a SEC championship game. Something no other coach has come close to. He had 3 straight 11 win seasons at SC. SC had one other season with double digit wins in their history (10 wins in 1984). They only had 3 other seasons with 9 wins in their history (one of those being Spurrier).

They level of success SC had under Spurrier was WAY outside the norm for the program.

Spurrier was elite at UF. But he was also one of the best coaches ever at SC and Duke. He was just an incredible football coach.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 11:34 am
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:39 am to
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Oh, so I imagined all the playing time Tim Tebow got that year making big plays in crucial games.


He came in some. But he had 33 pass attempts to 365 for Leak.

He effectively came in for short yardage situations to play wildcat QB. Closer to what Darren Mcfadden did with QB stats when he was at Arkansas.

Darren McFadden was 6-11 passing, 11.7 yards per attempt and had 4 TD's as a QB in 2007.

Tim Tebow was 22-33, 10.8 yards per attempt and had 5 TD's in 2006. Both mainly ran the ball when they lined up under center as wildcat guys
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36306 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:40 am to
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He effectively came in for short yardage situations to play wildcat QB.


So Urban Meyer is only able to win NC when he has a big body QB who can fall forward on every play.

Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
1765 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:44 am to
Recruit better? They'll be dropping like flies and going elsewhere. Nobody wants to board a sinking ship.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36306 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:48 am to
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Milroe was phenomenal against a good Georgia defense.


He was. When he isn't shitting the bed he's not a terrible QB.

But between the OL having trouble protecting him the past 2 weeks and his own inaccuracy/mistakes, you aren't going to win very many games.

Alabama wins easily yesterday if he doesn't make all those bad decisions and isn't being extremely inaccurate. But that's not what happened, he shite the bed.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
18326 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:48 am to
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Bama needs players that support whoever the coaches decide to play. Players that don't can get out. Losing games is not as bad as having selfish players that won't play hard to support their team mates or try to dictate the coaches. Bama needs a little house cleaning.


These are Sabans players. Are you saying that Saban had players that dictated him? Did Sabans players not play hard for him? Seems to me it’s a Deboer problem
Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
5581 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:51 am to
The players basically were not giving full effort and showing their azz if they didn't get the QB they wanted. When Saban couldn't control the team, he decided it was time to get out.....Bill OBrien and the assistant coaches told Saban that Milroe needed to switch positions but Saban was too scared of the player revolt so he went with the players. Thats why they feel they can still dictate the coaches. Milroe divides the team.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36306 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:55 am to
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These are Sabans players. Are you saying that Saban had players that dictated him? Did Sabans players not play hard for him? Seems to me it’s a Deboer problem


There is a reason why Saban retired.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
18326 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:57 am to
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Bill OBrien and the assistant coaches told Saban that Milroe needed to switch positions but Saban was too scared of the player revolt so he went with the players.


You have a credible link to that? I would love to read it. I’m not buying that horseshite one bit. Saban had his players more dialed in than any coach in my lifetime.
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When Saban couldn't control the team, he decided it was time to get out..


Saban got out because of NIL. I can’t believe any Bama fan would ever believe that Saban didn’t have complete control of his teams.
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
4036 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:57 am to
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Milroe divides the team.


So Milroe is dividing the offense and Malachi is dividing the defense, and DeBoer is still a really good coach.

Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 12:00 pm to
You’re right

Too many 4 and 5 star players, they need some 6 stars
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3112 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 12:01 pm to
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So he can’t scheme to be successful with a roster littered with 4 and 5 star athletes?


No he can't when they don't know the difference between left and right.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
18326 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 12:02 pm to
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No he can't when they don't know the difference between left and right.


Did the same players know the difference between right and left last year?
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