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re: Dan Mullen: "It's not that we're cocky, we're just better..."

Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
77392 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:36 pm to
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The only way this is even applicable to the matter at hand is who those students donate their money back to and choose to support. I've never seen an MSU fan that went to grad school at OM and became an OM fan.


The education they received was from Ole Miss and that means we are responsible for them making their salary. Them not being a fan of Ole Miss in sports is irrelevant. It's about academics.

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In the end -- how our alumni networks are doing financially can be seen in each school's bottom line -- and for the past decade or so, MSU has been kicking arse and taking names financially while OM has faltered somewhat compared to their historic values.

Gonna need to see these numbers
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
19784 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:36 pm to
I have another stat... It separates the Dawgs from everyone else in the conference.

515–549–39 (.485)
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:38 pm to
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Yes because it counters your point of saying an abundance of supply will drive the pay down.


When did there become an abundance of supply of fortune 500 CEO's?

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There is an abundance of male CEOs compared to female CEOs, but females still make significantly less.


And in what way is having females "necessary" in the CEO world -- compared to the cheerleading world, where it is absolutely necessary to have a number of males to compete at a high level.

You are simply making an apples to oranges comparison.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:45 pm to
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And in what way is having females "necessary" in the CEO world -- compared to the cheerleading world, where it is absolutely necessary to have a number of males to compete at a high level.


It is absolutely not necessary for there to be male cheerleaders, but it is necessary to have females (take a look at the Aggies to confirm that).

Your statement that it is not necessary for there to be female CEOs is pretty ignorant because it is not "necessary" for there to be male CEOs for a business to succeed either. And again, it is percentages, not numbers. It is ridiculous that only 2% of females make up Fortune 500 CEOs AND that their pay is significantly less.

I'll agree that cheerleaders and CEOs are not equal, but that was not the point of the matter. I see the disparity on a regular basis in the business world.
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 5:50 pm
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:21 pm to
Wait are y'all still arguing who makes more money on average?
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:27 pm to
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Gonna need to see these numbers


Posted them here many times before. Do you really need to see them again? Because the level of butt hurt that flows with those numbers is excessive...
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:28 pm to
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I have another stat... It separates the Dawgs from everyone else in the conference.

515–549–39 (.485)


Wrong.

Do I need to tear this one apart as well? Done that before too...

Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:36 pm to
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It is absolutely not necessary for there to be male cheerleaders, but it is necessary to have females (take a look at the Aggies to confirm that).


Why is there male cheerleaders on every advanced collegiate competition cheerleading squad? Because their strength is needed in advanced routines -- and that strength can not be mimicked by females. Hence why those males are in higher demand than the female counterparts -- in the same way that a girl with a gymnastics and advanced tumbling background is in higher demand than one that doesn't have those things...

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Your statement that it is not necessary for there to be female CEOs is pretty ignorant because it is not "necessary" for there to be male CEOs for a business to succeed either.

You are -- again -- trying to turn what I said into a straw man argument about something completely different.

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I'll agree that cheerleaders and CEOs are not equal, but that was not the point of the matter. I see the disparity on a regular basis in the business world.


So, you concede that this is straw man?

And I don't see any disparity in either of my professional fields -- either current or former.

If this happened in the manner in which it is alleged, and was as prevalent as alleged, it would be front page news every day of our lives.


Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
5516 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:38 pm to
Please do

Posted by HuggieBear
Your mom's bed
Member since Mar 2013
394 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:41 pm to
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It's still MS though, is that really something to brag about?


shite, we need to soften up our schedule. When do we get Florida again? They are our bitch. Just ask Tim Tebow.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:41 pm to
Here's just one example

LINK


There are hundreds of articles like this out there. I thought it was common knowledge.
Posted by HuggieBear
Your mom's bed
Member since Mar 2013
394 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:42 pm to
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I have another stat... It separates the Dawgs from everyone else in the conference.

515–549–39 (.485)


Wrong.

Do I need to tear this one apart as well? Done that before too...

What, is this not your overall football record?
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:45 pm to
They had some undeserved probations due to false wrongdoings reported by Ole Miss boosters over the years. It's a shame really.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19582 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:49 pm to
State sucks
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:52 pm to
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What, is this not your overall football record?


What is Penn State's overall football record?

No -- that's not really our overall football record...
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:54 pm to
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Why is there male cheerleaders on every advanced collegiate competition cheerleading squad? Because their strength is needed in advanced routines -- and that strength can not be mimicked by females. Hence why those males are in higher demand than the female counterparts -- in the same way that a girl with a gymnastics and advanced tumbling background is in higher demand than one that doesn't have those things...

At the collegiate level there is also such a thing as an all girl division, but not one for an all male division. Also, at high school camps, unless there were co-ed squads, the males were utilized, but not necessary. In high school the vast majority of squads are all female. At the college level, they are mostly coed, so I will give it to you that they are necessary to teach the camps.

As for the rest, I gave 2 completely different scenarios where women make less than men for a job with similar responsibilities. I was never trying to say they were equal jobs, so I'm sorry you took it that way.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
77392 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:55 pm to
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No -- that's not really our overall football record...

Ok. Then what is it? It's still a losing record regardless.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
77392 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:56 pm to
According to one State site it's this.
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All Time Record 531-531-40


BUUUUUUULL shite
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
5516 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:57 pm to
You've said that twice...what is your football recrod.....
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:02 pm to
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Please do


Just for you, then, it is. I even removed the trend projections for you -- in attempt to avoid the ridiculous flame fest that follows...

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