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re: Dan Mullen: "It's not that we're cocky, we're just better..."

Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:26 pm to
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I didn't ask for that.

Yes, yes you did.

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We're still higher though.

And you should savor every minute of it.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:28 pm to
I'm scared as frick of your numbers
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:33 pm to
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If we're talking about money, maybe endowments are close, but the student body at Ole Miss is so wealthy its gross. I know a bunch of people from both schools. Ole Miss kids have SMU kinda money. Range Rovers all over the parking lot and shite.


There's a difference between flaunted wealth and true wealth. That's largely a background difference between OM people and MSU people if we're being honest.

You won't catch very many of even the wealthiest MSU people spending in ridiculous excess on vehicles. Most of our big time guys wouldn't even stand out in a crowd in any way if you didn't know who they were...
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:37 pm to
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There's a difference between flaunted wealth and true wealth.

Ole Miss has way more true and flaunted wealth than State does.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:45 pm to
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And our administration the last year or so has been getting those parents from Texas to donate more money. If we could get a competent Chancellor who was focussed on raising money instead of political correctness bullshite, we'd be rich as hell.


If you could get those people to buy in longterm, it would be great for your program for sure. Seems that has been one of your problems with all those OOS kids/families coming and having fun for 4 years, but never truly vesting back into OM.

State owns alot of land and is willed more every year. Those assets make up a significant portion of our total endowment... Even in tough years, this makes us almost totally recession proof. This is something our admin has done a great deal identifying and following through with over the past 20 or so years. As such, really since 9/11, land has been appreciating at a much higher rate in general than the hedge funds, etc that actual endowment capital is usually invested in -- and that defines a fairly large part of our growth over the same time period...
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:46 pm to
Maybe they're flaunting their true wealth?
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:46 pm to
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Ole Miss has way more true and flaunted wealth than State does.


Flaunted, yes. True, no.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:49 pm to
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Maybe they're flaunting their true wealth?


MEH -- 90% of those kids are dr or lawyer kids. Rich, maybe, but not filthy rich.

A very large part of the culture at your university is putting on a face that in no way describes who you really are. It's more about the pageantry than the reality -- and always has been.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:32 pm to
Now I know we all have our homer tendencies towards our respective schools and teams, but let's try to be objective here. I know OM finally won their super bowl against us in a game they needed for bowl eligibility and we were gator bowl bound win or lose. Motivation is a big thing.

But let's assess the facts:

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Mullen called MSU "premier" school in MS for academics, athletics:"It's not that we're cocky, we're just better than all the other schools."


Ok. Well Mullen is 3-1 against OM, this year's game was an anomaly, not the norm. We still finished with a better overall and SEC record, and went to a better bowl.

An MSU grad on average makes more than an OM grad. OM with their best basketball team in history couldn't beat State's worst team at the Hump. We have already beaten OM in baseball but the series is to be determined this weekend. We are ranked higher in baseball with a better record.

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"We will relentlessly pursue that championship for you because you deserve it. Everybody in this room deserves to be called champions."


Of course they do, they work hard. Everything Mullen has said up to this point has validity.

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"We might not be the best, but we'll play with the most effort."


I will admit this leans toward accepting mediocrity and that is embarrassing and unacceptable. We should strive to be better than more than just Ole Miss, Auburn, UK and Tennessee.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:33 pm to
Do you have a job? Serious question.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103126 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:35 pm to
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First public university in the state


All that tax from slave cotton money and plantation owners. Within each brick of the lyceum is blood and sweat from oppressed black people.

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premier law school in the state.


Mississippi College is better
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103126 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:36 pm to
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Those numbers also don't look at inheritance.


Oh so now you're all just a bunch of people with their hand out...you're no better than welfare recipients.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:38 pm to
You're going full retard. Take a breath
Posted by TJmoney
In your mom
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:42 pm to
Isn't this the kind of thing we hate ole miss for? I wish Dan would shut up and take his medicine sometimes. We are Mississippi state no reason to try to be anyone else.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:44 pm to
That's right. Know thy role
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:45 pm to
Yeah frick that guy.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:50 pm to
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It's more about the pageantry than the reality -- and always has been.


Ask them if they got that money for the stadium expansion yet. Took us less than one year to secure all needed funds to go to IHL. Surely they have started breaking goround, right?
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:01 pm to
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Message Posted by Requiem For A Dawg Do you have a job? Serious question.




Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54515 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:01 pm to
Stadium Expansion Championship
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