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re: Dallas says Sankey can't do anything to the coaches/institutions and see you in court

Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:16 am to
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:16 am to
I am not going to laugh off a Vandy guy

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Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
28493 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:16 am to
You mean the G league player that just entered the transfer portal?
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
18956 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:17 am to
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This is 100% incorrect

Chambliss is currently ineligible. Ole Miss is going to play him. The entire purpose of the TRO is that the courts rule ole Miss can not be retroactively penalized.


You (and everyone else on this site) should read this

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Tony Clayton is one of my favorite people in the world and is a fantastic trial attorney. I wouldn’t be shocked at all if he can persuade Judge Jorden to issue a preliminary injunction.

So what happens if LSU plays the former NFL players and the preliminary injunction protecting that decision is later vacated.

Here is the important part: that is not some remote pedantic hypothetical. Louisiana has seen almost exactly this sequence before.

In Jones v. NCAA, 679 So. 2d 381 (La. 1996), the NCAA declared a college football player ineligible under its five-year rule. A Louisiana trial judge issued an injunction allowing him to play, and the court of appeal upheld it.

The Louisiana Supreme Court, though, vacated the injunction.

It held that courts should not interfere with a private association’s eligibility decisions absent arbitrary, capricious, unfair, or discriminatory conduct.

Now let’s say the NCAA and SEC lose in the district court. What happens next?

I assume they would immediately seek an emergency stay and appellate review. That process can move quickly--although not overnight. In Jones, the Louisiana Supreme Court vacated the injunction just 21 days after the trial court issued it.

What happens if the NCAA is successful (as it was in Jones) but LSU had already played the former NFL players? The consequences would not be automatic, but the legal fight would become considerably more dangerous.

LSU would argue that it cannot be punished retroactively for conduct undertaken while protected by a valid court order. There is legal authority supporting that position, although much would depend on exactly what the injunction says.

The SEC would respond that the injunction did not require LSU to play anyone (although, given some of the theories now being advanced about the reach of injunctions, perhaps even that will be disputed). LSU voluntarily chose to play athletes who were ineligible under a rule LSU itself voted to affirm, knowing the announced consequences if the injunction disappeared.

The SEC would likely attempt to impose its penalties. Presumably, LSU would then return to court seeking another injunction -- this time to prevent a half-season suspension for Lane Kiffin, a fine potentially exceeding $25 million, the loss of SEC voting rights, and any additional sanctions imposed by the commissioner.

There is no guarantee those penalties would survive. There is also no guarantee LSU could stop them.

That uncertainty is the point.

LSU would be wagering an awful lot on an interlocutory ruling involving a rule it voted to adopt--and on the assumption that the ruling would survive every level of appellate review.

So yes, LSU might get an injunction next week. Stranger things have happened.

The real question is whether Monday’s injunction would still be standing in December.

And if it isn’t? What an extraordinary (and potentially very costly) mess--and for what?

(Footnote: no, I’m not commenting on the Kentucky case. I’m not a Kentucky lawyer, and I have not studied the governing Kentucky law.)
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
47067 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:18 am to
"It held that courts should not interfere with a private association’s eligibility decisions absent arbitrary, capricious, unfair, or discriminatory conduct."

Sounds easy enough.

Pros are littered throughout college rosters

Arbitrary rule enforcement

Watch
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 9:19 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38714 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:22 am to
That’s still on the roster?


Yes.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
28493 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:23 am to
The CFP playoff committee can easily put a stop to this. Refuse to accept any team that plays with pros. Literally nothing the courts could do about it, and the schools would drop all pro players immediately
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2435 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:23 am to
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Nope
Then why is Sankey being called as a defendant? Why did the Dallas judge just issue an order blocking the NCAA/SEC from their punishments of teams who play these players?

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There is no penalty to the player
That's not the issue. The SEC told teams they can't play legally eligible players meaning the conference rules are in conflict with US law
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
18956 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:27 am to
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I am not going to laugh off a Vandy guy


Some of the worst lawyers I've ever worked with graduated from Yale and Harvard.

I question how brilliant a lawyer he can be, given that his website is riddled with typos and broken links.
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 9:31 am
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2435 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:27 am to
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could simply refuse to play LSU if LSU intends to play an ineligible player
The players aren't ineligible and if a team refused to play that would be a forfeit
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2330 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:27 am to
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The real question is whether Monday’s injunction would still be standing in December.

And if it isn’t? What an extraordinary (and potentially very costly) mess--and for what?


This is ultimately why Tech backed down. They looked out on the multi-year negative ramifications and realized the upside of a Brendan Sorsby was just not worth the significant downside of the larger system kicking you back for years on end.

LSU has never been a thinking man's university and it probably has not dawned on the powers that be there that all this is not worth it for a mediocre tight end.

This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 9:28 am
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
18956 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:28 am to
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Sounds easy enough.




I guess we'll see!
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2435 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:31 am to
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LSU voluntarily chose to play athletes who were ineligible under a rule LSU itself voted to affirm, knowing the announced consequences if the injunction disappeared
The players are not ineligible according to current US law. No team can be forced to face consequences for playing them

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LSU would be wagering an awful lot
Any team who plays these players wages nothing because the law is on their side. The wager is the SEC going against the court
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2330 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:33 am to
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The players are not ineligible according to current US law.


Is there a federal law on the books that governs collegiate athletic eligibility?

Can you show me that one?
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
28493 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:35 am to
Pretty sure the courts have no jurisdiction over the CFP committee. LSU could literally be held out of the playoffs.
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
11001 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:41 am to
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Pretty sure the courts have no jurisdiction over the CFP committee

This is false, unless they somehow get a Presidential pardon. Which at this point.. nothing would surprise me..
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6714 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:41 am to
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I am not going to laugh off a Vandy guy


Don’t worry. I’ll do that for you.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
18956 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:41 am to
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The players are not ineligible according to current US law. No team can be forced to face consequences for playing them


You're really off the mark here. Every school in the SEC agreed to bylaws when it joined the conference. If they don't abide by those bylaws, they can face punishment by the SEC. Every school also has a membership agreement with the NCAA, which allows the NCAA to enforce certain rules (you can read my post here with the NCAA bylaw on restitution: LINK).

Go back and read the blurb from Scott Schneider about how it can all play out.

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Any team who plays these players wages nothing because the law is on their side.


Again, you're off the mark.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
28493 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:43 am to
Is the legal system completely worthless at this point? All they do is frick up everything
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2435 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:44 am to
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Is there a federal law on the books that governs collegiate athletic eligibility
Yes. See the court cases that currently exist. When a judge says it, it's effectively law
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2435 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:45 am to
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Pretty sure the courts have no jurisdiction over the CFP committee
If a judge rules it legal and the CFP discriminates against a team for doing something expressly allowed by the courts, what makes you think the CFP would be immune from lawsuit?
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