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re: Dak Prescott refuses to participate in turning his back on the flag
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:00 am to MrAUTigers
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:00 am to MrAUTigers
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The flag does have meaning.
But the meaning is subjective. That's the part that i believe people are missing.
It is not a standard view that is shared by 100% of the population. And like all views, it can be altered depending on your perspective or exposure to information.
The flag having meaning could be:
freedom
USA is supreme
military lives lost
etc etc
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:02 am to MullenBoys
That flag only represents one group in this country. Until it represents everyone, it means nothing. Dak matters right now because of what he has to offer. If Dak went to MSU on an academic scholarship alone, he would've been every name they can think of.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 11:04 am
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:04 am to ibontherun
I guess I was just raised in a much different time....who had people in his family that had served through the years.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:06 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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And there is the result of our public education system the past two/three decades
I went to a prestigious private school and I can guarantee I have a much higher IQ than you do. Want to debate me on this issue dipshit? We can have a go.
The flag is a symbol. Symbols are simple representations of things. If you believe for one moment that any soldier gave his life for a flag then you are a fricking idiot. They gave their life for an idea. An idea that still exists if you take away the flag. The flag means nothing. Deal with it.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:06 am to Vecchio Cane
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People who get riled by their kneeling should stop taking everything personally
I've lost relatives who were fighting for this freedom, yes I take it very personally.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:08 am to MrAUTigers
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who had people in his family that had served through the years.
Ive got family in every branch....and all have ZERO problem with Colin. NONE.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:09 am to ibontherun
This debate hasn't been about Kap....it's been about the idea that the flag if just a piece of cloth. I was raised to believe it is much more than that. Ask any of your relatives if they feel that the flag has no meaning.
ETA this was the post that steered the discussion this way
ETA this was the post that steered the discussion this way
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It's cloth on a pole.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 11:11 am
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:10 am to AshLSU
Why would I want to debate an imbecile?
You can shove your prestigious private school up your arse then. And that's telling anyway. Tells me more about you and yours.
You can shove your prestigious private school up your arse then. And that's telling anyway. Tells me more about you and yours.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:12 am to Carolina_Girl
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I mean, like someone else pointed out...if the flag is "just cloth' then the constitution...as well as our laws...are "just words"....so these same idiots that say our flag is just cloth should also support our right to shoot anything/anyone we want since laws are just words.
You really are one stupid fricking bitch. You think the flag is the same as the constitution? Or laws? God damn I hope you have not reproduced.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:18 am to AshLSU
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I went to a prestigious private school and I can guarantee I have a much higher IQ than you do.
Speaking of counts- I do believe we have a Cersei level one here folks.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:20 am to AshLSU
I guess those boys that went through a living hell raised that "just cloth"at Iwo Jima because it means nothing. I guess those men and women that serve today wears that "just cloth" on their shoulders because it means nothing. I guess those stars on that "just cloth" means nothing.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:22 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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I see the flag sort of like the cross, a symbol. It's dangerous to put symbols above what they represent. I try to focus more on the actual values and less on the symbols.
Exactly my point. Take away the symbol, it changes nothing. The idea is still there. Symbols don't mean anything.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:23 am to MrAUTigers
Can the idea of democracy and freedom exist without the flag?
I can answer that for you, yes. The ideas for democracy and freedom predate the first flag representing the Americas
Again...
Your information disseminated to you from your family created that.
I can answer that for you, yes. The ideas for democracy and freedom predate the first flag representing the Americas
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I was raised to believe it is much more than that
Again...
Your information disseminated to you from your family created that.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:24 am to threedog79
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I guess those boys that went through a living hell raised that "just cloth"at Iwo Jima because it means nothing. I guess those men and women that serve today wears that "just cloth" on their shoulders because it means nothing. I guess those stars on that "just cloth" means nothing.
No. The flag meant nothing. The idea is what mattered.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:25 am to MrAUTigers
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I guess I was just raised in a much different time....who had people in his family that had served through the years
with all due respect, what does that first statement have to do with the 2nd statement?
Provided structure is important...it's nearly essential. However, you should become your own person and evolve your thinking through life's experiences. That is what's most important!
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:25 am to MullenBoys
Great to see. Thanks Dak for not disrespecting what our flag stands for.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:25 am to piggilicious
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piggilicious
<3 <3 <3
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:27 am to AshLSU
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No. The flag meant nothing. The idea is what mattered.
You are not that girl/guy that tried to burn the flag on LSU's campus are you? You know the one where hundreds of students showed up at to stop the burning...because, again, the "just cloth" means nothing.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:29 am to Barneyrb
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I've lost relatives who were fighting for this freedom, yes I take it very personally.
So did just about everyone here. I'd be ashamed of my grandfather if he was fighting "for a flag". However, I know he wasn't. He was fighting for an idea that all men are equal and deserve to be free.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:31 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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Why would I want to debate an imbecile? You can shove your prestigious private school up your arse then. And that's telling anyway. Tells me more about you and yours.
Spoken like a true waist of space. Ignorant to the core.
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