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re: Current enrollment numbers for SEC Schools

Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:32 am to
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:32 am to
I wonder when I'll stop being surprised by how much headspace Aggie still leases out to Texas
Posted by Mister Tee
On the Lake
Member since Jun 2014
2761 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:44 am to
I am beginning to see it too. I really thought that they would be an asset to our conference, but they are clearly delusional in many regards.

They are like a whining baby that longs for their mother's tits. I think they should just merge with the University of Texas and we all call it a day. Stop wasting our time.
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:45 am to
LSU's total enrollment statewide including both Medical Schools, the Dental School, the Vet School and satellite campuses in Alexandria, Eunice, and Shreveport is actually 45,202.

The 31,000 number is just for the Baton Rouge Campus and already includes the Law School.

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This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 8:42 am
Posted by DorchesterGamecock
Bristol, CT
Member since May 2014
793 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 6:55 am to
quote:

The other mistake Texas has made is how it treats its system. California got it right where all schools are equal. Texas has flagships and then system schools. They most definitely are not equal.


I agree. I know California is having trouble funding their state schools right now.. but in my opinion, they still got it right. California has flagships too though.

The University of California SYSTEM is their flagship.. so they just don't have one, they have 10 flagship schools. Most people recognize Berkeley or UCLA as flagship schools within that flagship system... but in reality they are all flagship schools.

Right below the flagship UC system is the Cal State system, which has more campuses and is meant to accommodate the "general" populace, whereas the UC system is elite and educates the best California students and those from around the world.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
51967 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:31 am to
I feel like Auburn has stayed at 25k mark for years
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 8:22 am to
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Most people recognize Berkeley or UCLA as flagship schools within that flagship system... but in reality they are all flagship schools.


Virtually everyone in California recognizes Cal as the symbolic flagship. I don't think UCLA folks are hung-up on the fact that Cal is more prestigious -- maybe because UCLA is pretty damn good in its own right.

It's an interesting question comparing what California does in comparison to what other less prestigious state systems do. I think it probably ultimately comes down to the fact that there are enough Californians who give a damn about whether their is some academic prestige in their top tier state schools and are willing to pay for it (to the point of economic struggle.)
Posted by blackbear
near Memphis
Member since May 2016
15 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:48 am to
what is the University of Southern MS enrollment
Posted by Rollo
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
434 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:13 am to
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I do find it interesting when these same schools talk about how tough their entrance standards are and then they have a student population that dwarfs the population of the town the school is located in....


This. The State of Georgia typically ranks in the bottom half of states in education rankings K-12, but somehow we have thousands and thousands of kids with better than a 4.0 GPA going to UGA. There is a lot of grade inflation going on trying to achieve Hope and impress the US NEWS and World Reports out there.

UGA loves them some inflated GPAs, not so much the standardized test scores. They love APs and IBs (and give you a 10 point bonus on your grade) but don't care how you actually scored on the standardized AP or IB test. They don't much care about ACT or SAT if your GPA is to their liking. Don't want to have any evidence that the grade (and 10 point bonus) were unearned bullshite.

I am sure other schools are doing similar grade engineering to get the diversity they want (public/private, geographic diversity, ethnic diversity. male/female etc.), while at the same time claiming the new students are all fricking geniuses
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 11:16 am
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8885 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:41 am to
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Arizona State has 73,378 students CURRENTLY enrolled.

They have made it a state priority to accept literally every student who graduates from high school in Arizona into Arizona State University.

How? I never knew that that State had that many people to begin with. The University of Arizona has 42,236 students under the same rules.

That is more than the two Mississippi schools combined just for one of their 2 State Universities.



Not every one of these students is on the Arizona State's Tempe campus, which is what many perceive to be "ASU" when talking about it.

ASU has a large online program and more than a couple campuses throughout the Phoenix area that houses students and programs.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 11:48 am
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:11 pm to
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Virtually everyone in California recognizes Cal as the symbolic flagship. I don't think UCLA folks are hung-up on the fact that Cal is more prestigious -- maybe because UCLA is pretty damn good in its own right.


I lived in Westwood briefly a few years ago. Most of the Bruins I hung around considered UCLA and Cal as a sort of twin flagship thing, but there wasn't much insecurity or animosity about it, especially considering UCLA has SC across town to consume most of their ire. The fact that Cal and UCLA are two of the best public universities in the country, are nearly 400 miles apart, that they both have private schools as bigger rivals (SC, Stanford), and that UCLA has generally been a better school in Big 3 athletics than Cal meant the Golden Bears came up way more in academic/educational conversations than those about sports.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:11 pm to
My daughter attends UCLA. I can assure you California doesn't treat all of the public schools equally. There is a heirarchy.


Cal and UCLA are the flagships of public colleges in California.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:22 pm to
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Georgia has Emory for that at the Centers for Disease Control.




Neither Georgia, nor Emory, nor Auburn, or any other university except Texas A&M had the unique qualifications to run a US Biosecurity Center.

You throw shite and it's coming back at you.

Texas A&M is ranked second behind Penn State as the favorite of Fortune 500 recruiters. Not a diploma mill.


Posted by lestertheghost
Member since Mar 2016
436 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:27 pm to
aTm needs to work on system, not stuff everyone on main campus, 70% plus acceptance is ridiculous, so is 80,000 enrollment talk

UT is working on System, Will have Medical Schools as anchors for schools in UT-Austin, UT-Dallas, new UT-Houston, UT-San Antonio, UT-El Paso, and UT-Rio Grande Valley Campuses soon. UT-Dallas and UT-Arlington should be achieving Tier 1 Status soon, and UT-System is working on San Antonio & new Houston Campus to someday get to Tier 1

In 10-20 years from now, the UT-System looks to be much stronger and have a large presence in/near every large city in Texas

aTm just seems to consolidating everything around their main College Station campus, which is perceived more and more by High Schoolers as a diploma mill safety school

This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:06 pm to
Time magazine
quote:

Are the elite colleges a long shot? Whether you’re a B or even C student hoping for a great education, or a stronger student in search of a safety school, these top colleges that accept at least 66% of applicants are worth a look.


No. 1 on the list? Texas A&M University
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:12 pm to
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Neither Georgia, nor Emory, nor Auburn, or any other university except Texas A&M had the unique qualifications to run a US Biosecurity Center. You throw shite and it's coming back at you.



The mother frickin UNITED STATES CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL is on the campus of Emory.

GTFOH
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44996 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75812 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

Clem really is the Rodney Dangerfield of college fball.
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
1207 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

lestertheghost
Current enrollment numbers for SEC Schools
aTm needs to work on system, not stuff everyone on main campus, 70% plus acceptance is ridiculous, so is 80,000 enrollment talk

UT is working on System, Will have Medical Schools as anchors for schools in UT-Austin, UT-Dallas, new UT-Houston, UT-San Antonio, UT-El Paso, and UT-Rio Grande Valley Campuses soon. UT-Dallas and UT-Arlington should be achieving Tier 1 Status soon, and UT-System is working on San Antonio & new Houston Campus to someday get to Tier 1

In 10-20 years from now, the UT-System looks to be much stronger and have a large presence in/near every large city in Texas

aTm just seems to consolidating everything around their main College Station campus, which is perceived more and more by High Schoolers as a diploma mill safety school


Agree completely on working on the system. A&M only became a flagship system school around 1980. The University of Texas has improved their system schools tremendously in the last 25 years, but still fall well short of the California model.

The "diploma mill" issue goes back to what I mentioned before. A&M is compelled by law to accept the top 10% from every high school in Texas. Roughly 250k kids graduate high school in Texas each year meaning A&M is compelled to automatically accept 25k students per year should they apply.

As a result, A&M becomes the safety school for many of the top 10% of students as they know they are guaranteed a spot should they be turned down. It also appears that about half of the top 10% apply and are automatically accepted by A&M in the last numbers I could pull up (12k top 10% admits vs 25k pool). Roughly half of the students accepted to A&M actually attend, highlighting the safety factor for many.

Texas was able to wiggle out of the 10% rule due to the inability to grow their campus as it is in downtown Austin, so they do not see the same phenomenon.

I really wish the state would stop dicking around and get Tech and/or Houston promoted so we can stop the insane growth.
Posted by lestertheghost
Member since Mar 2016
436 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:24 pm to
Good points

Seems Texas has been able to stay around 50k since the 1980's, and aTm has probably doubled in enrollment since then, massive growth

I wonder why aTm was not able to get of top 10% rule?

Especially with Rick Perry Gov so long, and with dramatic enrollment increase the last 5-10 years?

This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 4:29 pm
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
3400 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:30 pm to
People that aren't in the top 10% of their class don't apply to A&M very often.


Since you want to be made an arse of, there is a reason why your school will never even get a sniff of an AAU invitation.

The AAU doesn't invite diploma mills nor do they tolerate them in the membership.



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