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re: Could SEC dominance eventually hurt college football?

Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by KillianRussell
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:08 pm to
Things run in cycles, due to a population shift I doubt the rust belt dethrones the SEC however a decade ago many of the kids in the SEC recruiting footprint landed at Miami & FSU which subsequently made them dominant.


100k seat Staduims at Michigan, Penn & Ohio State will continue to sell out. Penn State is ok with year in year out top 20 finishes if the graduation rates are high and NCAA violations are low
This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 4:14 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:09 pm to
Au 04 never happens in a playoff. The Bama LSU rematch would have though. Bring on the playoffs, cause that means 06 LSU would have won it all.

In reference to us winning more, there are only about 5 schools that have a chance. USC this year, Ohio state next should be great teams. Problem for them is LSU is way more loaded this year than last, and next year Bama is going to be very experienced. Everyone else is FFUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKEEEEDDDD
Posted by AUTiger83
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:10 pm to
No.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:10 pm to
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Considering there is no reason for Bama and LSU to not be a 4 team playoff every year, I'd say it only helps us more.


Being in a 4 team playoff is not the same as winning it year, after year, after year. You have to think there have been periods in recent memory (early 00s) where no SEC even made the BCSCG without a playoff.
Posted by FourThinInches
Dallas
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:11 pm to
eventually? Have you not kept up with college sports the last few years?

Conference expansions, conference championship games, playoff talks ... Teams and conferences are losing their minds over the SEC dominance.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:12 pm to
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SEC dominance

quote:

A&M

Let's stay on topic please.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:15 pm to
LSU SSTTTAAAAAAAAAACCCCCKKKKKKEEEEEDDDD
EVERYONE ELSE
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Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:19 pm to
Adding Penn State in the 90's (then neb. last) gave the BIG a team that could plant a second loss on Ohio State or Michigan dropping them in the polls.

I fear that A&M and Mizzou will add two spoilers to the mix in so as a run at number one in the polls
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:19 pm to
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This is a good point, there are so many coaches out there with gimmicky, high speed, get great quick offensive schemes; once more guys like CUM get to other schools they will catch up with the SEC some



I just don't think that style of play is good for sustaining success though. If Meyer had stayed at UF, chances are they would have still been shite on offense last year. The achilles heel of that style of football is 3rd and short. If you have a QB like Tebow or Cam, problem solved. If you don't, you need a power back. Power backs don't exactly line up around the block to play in a spread option offense though. If any program out of the Big 10 starts to challenge the SEC it will be Michigan, IMO.
This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 4:20 pm
Posted by bingo
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 5:39 pm to
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Could SEC dominance eventually hurt college football?


no. cfb is cyclical, the sec will not win every year. and, that first year that it obvious it will not happen will draw huge viewership from the other conferences.

the proposed, new playoff should help.
Posted by secfan123
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:05 pm to
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What about when they went 4-0 against the SEC with an average margin of victory of 30 PPG?



exxagerate much? They beat a #14 ranked auburn team in 2002 by 7. IN CALIFORNIA. The next year they won 23-0 over an unranked auburn team. LSU beat that team by 24 and georgia beat them by 19. Or maybe you're thinking of 2005 arkansas. You know, the team that went 4-7? The one impressive win they had was in 2006 when arkansas was the third best team in the west but lucked into the championship game.



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People in places that don't care about college football were interested in watching USC.


lets see some numbers outside the california markets to back your assertion here.

The fact is, you didnt know much about college football when you usc got good, so you built them up in your mind to some superforce. kids in the 80's did it with miami, kids in the 90's did it with fsu (of course at least those two managed more than one championship).


you have proven time and time again bench, i mean whatever the hell you're calling yourself now, that your football iq is very limited and you allow perceptions rather than facts and a sound understanding of football to back your inane opinions.


Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5033 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:10 pm to
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Coach Sumlin mentioned that in a couple of interviews I heard. I think he gets it. Mizzou, listening to Pinkel, I'm not so sure.


Except that he has mentioned that to every recruit that we have offered a Scholly.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:12 pm to
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quote:
Coach Sumlin mentioned that in a couple of interviews I heard. I think he gets it. Mizzou, listening to Pinkel, I'm not so sure.


Except that he has mentioned that to every recruit that we have offered a Scholly.



I was speaking of Pinkel's stance the Mizzou really doesn't need to make adjustments to his system coming to SEC. That's been my impression.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:15 pm to
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I was speaking of Pinkel's stance the Mizzou really doesn't need to make adjustments to his system coming to SEC.

No self respecting coach would think this. We'll find out how good pinkel is by how much his scheme changes over the time he has left at missouri. If he keeps the dink and dunk then in a few years he won't be head coach anymore. If he goes to more traditional stuff over time then we will know that he learned the error of his ways.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:17 pm to
What I've seen of Mizzou on TV his QB better be prepared to throw in 1.3 seconds.
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:17 pm to
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If any program out of the Big 10 starts to challenge the SEC it will be Michigan,


I would say Ohio State and not because of Meyer, they kept two great recruiters in Luke Fickel and Mike Vrabel, the freshman QB Braxton Miller won freshman of the year honor and was very good considering the players suspended for the 1st half of the season thanks to Tattoo-Gate

Add to that mix the four blue chippers that bailed on verbals(maybe 6 total if you include leans) to Penn State after the Sandusky bomb dropped

I hate typing this truth but Ohio State will be the real McCoy the year after next.

The only thing working against them is they will not get the extra three weeks practice due to the bowl ban
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:19 pm to
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I hate typing this truth but Ohio State will be the real McCoy the year after next.


This I believe

quote:

not because of Meyer


This I'm not so sure about. Just imo.
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:25 pm to
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This I'm not so sure about.


Tressel did not leave with a bare cupboard.
If another coach let's say Chris Petersen or Al Golden took the Ohio State job I would still have them trending up but what the frick do I know my squad only plays them yearly and battles of the same recruits
Posted by LOCO5150
NWA
Member since Sep 2011
4867 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:32 pm to
The playoff system will almost guarantee now that an SECOND school will win the championship every year. How many times do great SEC schools get the shaft for beating up on each other while a USC can, etc. can tiptoe into national relevance with a cupcake schedule?

Now, there will always be at least one SEC team in the top 4. (Conf champ) and then they can go on to put the other conferences in their place during the playoff system.

My point is this...AL won the NC last year and they were second in their own SEC division. LSU would have just as easily beaten anyone else for NC if they hadn't played AL.
Posted by pivey14
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:36 pm to
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