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re: Corso's saying UT and Oklahoma leaving Big 12 in next 5 years most likely 4 SEC
Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:38 am to A LeBlanc
Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:38 am to A LeBlanc
As fan OU &/or TX to the SEC would be fun to watch, but they would dilute themselves.
Imagine a March Madness tourney with half of the best programs in one region.
Texas hasn't been an option to the SEC for decades. Sweeping changes in the AD and admin side the last few years, but I think the newer group has the same philosophy.. PAC12 then B10, possibly ACC but never the SEC.
Texas will always make decisions based on academics and money... academics being the predominant factor.
1992ish Texas had some real dialogue with the SEC, that's likely as close as it'll ever get and that wasn't a real option even then.
Imagine a March Madness tourney with half of the best programs in one region.
Texas hasn't been an option to the SEC for decades. Sweeping changes in the AD and admin side the last few years, but I think the newer group has the same philosophy.. PAC12 then B10, possibly ACC but never the SEC.
Texas will always make decisions based on academics and money... academics being the predominant factor.
1992ish Texas had some real dialogue with the SEC, that's likely as close as it'll ever get and that wasn't a real option even then.
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:39 am to EKG
You live in your own fantasy
This fantasy protects you from the truth
What would help is if you actually beat your rival on the field
Facing your problems head on is the only way to fix them
So take the steer by the horns and saw them off and not just act like you did
This fantasy protects you from the truth
What would help is if you actually beat your rival on the field
Facing your problems head on is the only way to fix them
So take the steer by the horns and saw them off and not just act like you did
Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:55 am to A LeBlanc
I could see a scenario where Kansas and Texas peace out of the Big 12 in implosion scenario and head up to the Big 10 or out to the Pac 12 with a couple other schools like K St. or Texas Tech or something.
In that scenario and the Big 12 dies and the SEC only wants Oklahoma, I think they would say sorry OK St. good luck and come without them if they had to for survival.
Then the SEC would have to figure out who would be a profitable 16th team and they would likely go after NC St, VT, Virginia and I guess would maybe take WVU if they couldn't get any of the others to leave the ACC.
They could then change scheduling and just go with 3 or 4 permanent rivals and the rest rotating schedules through the pod method.
Would be pretty awesome.
In that scenario and the Big 12 dies and the SEC only wants Oklahoma, I think they would say sorry OK St. good luck and come without them if they had to for survival.
Then the SEC would have to figure out who would be a profitable 16th team and they would likely go after NC St, VT, Virginia and I guess would maybe take WVU if they couldn't get any of the others to leave the ACC.
They could then change scheduling and just go with 3 or 4 permanent rivals and the rest rotating schedules through the pod method.
Would be pretty awesome.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:58 am to Ericvol2096
Oklahoma won't leave Texas
Oklahoma needs that game but more importantly they need Texas in the same conference
Oklahoma needs that game but more importantly they need Texas in the same conference
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:06 am to OldSchoolHorn
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Texas will always make decisions based on academics and money... academics being the predominant factor.
You do realize you are in a conference with the likes of Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Okie State. Baylor and TCU are overpriced and underwhelming. When other schools deserted the Big 12, you went and got West Virginia. Oh, and forgot to mention Iowa State.
Face it the Big 12 is an awful conference. You have one decent conference game in OU and the rest are crap. Your attendance has been down and your brand isn't what it used to be. No one watches the LHN.
You would be fortunate to get an SEC invite at this point because your league is joke.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:08 am to A LeBlanc
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Oklahoma needs that game but more importantly they need Texas in the same conference
Yet for the majority of their history, Texas and Oklahoma have not been in the same conference. Your point seems flawed.
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Oklahoma needs that game
SEC is loaded with cross conference match ups and does not require the other team to join the SEC.
Florida vs Florida State and Miami
Georgia vs Georgia Tech and Clemson
South Carolina vs Clemson and North Carolina
Kentucky vs Indiana (old) and Louisville (new)
Auburn and Clemson
Are some of the bigger ones but you have plenty of others that are played less often and some like LSU vs Tulane and Kansas vs Missouri are just dormant.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:14 am to Ericvol2096
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I could see a scenario where Kansas and Texas peace out of the Big 12 in implosion scenario
If I were the B12 commissioner I would boot Baylor and add 2 schools not in Texas. Maybe Tulane, Air Force, and BYU. B12 really only needs 2 schools in Texas to make it work at the national level so Texas and a partner between TCU and Texas Tech.
+ Tulane for 11
+ BYU for 12 and a real CCG
- Baylor + Air Force
- Texas Tech or TCU + Memphis or Team to be named later
That is a B12 with a CCG and an expanded footprint.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:14 am to Cheese Grits
Did I say they were not ever in a different conference
Maybe you forgot the 90's but OU had fallen apart the last few years in the Big 8 and the first few years in the Big 12 under John Blake
The Big 12 and being in a conference with Texas helped OU out.
OU values academics the same way as UT so both of these universities might be rivals on the field but off the field they are very similar
OU was pretty much the one who helped Texas in the Big 12 from moving league offices to Dallas to making it harder for Nebraska to play with kids who couldn't even write their own name
Maybe you forgot the 90's but OU had fallen apart the last few years in the Big 8 and the first few years in the Big 12 under John Blake
The Big 12 and being in a conference with Texas helped OU out.
OU values academics the same way as UT so both of these universities might be rivals on the field but off the field they are very similar
OU was pretty much the one who helped Texas in the Big 12 from moving league offices to Dallas to making it harder for Nebraska to play with kids who couldn't even write their own name
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 10:16 am
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:18 am to Cheese Grits
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BYU
UTex/the B12 has already gone on record that it will not invite BYU, due to the university's "homophobia, biphobia, and transphobia."
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:19 am to A LeBlanc
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Oklahoma won't leave Texas Oklahoma needs that game but more importantly they need Texas in the same conference
This is just stupid. As pointed out before, OU was in the Big 8 for decades while tu was in the SWC. They found a way to play the game.
Very recently, OU has attempted to manuver behind the scenes to move out of the XII WITHOUT tu. OU and OSU also tried to go to the PAC in 2011 WITHOUT tu.
So basically, you are talking out of your arse because you don't know what they frick you are talking about.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:21 am to A LeBlanc
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OU values academics the same way as UT so both of these universities might be rivals on the field but off the field they are very similar
Holy shite! I just want to laugh my arse off!
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OU was pretty much the one who helped Texas in the Big 12 from moving league offices to Dallas to making it harder for Nebraska to play with kids who couldn't even write their own name
Actually, that is not entirely accurate either. The old Big 8 allowed an unlimited number of Proposition 48 athletes in a program, while the Southwest Conference allowed zero Prop 48 kids. OU was able to take advantage of this along with Nebraska by loading up on kids that were dumber than dirt. The compromise in the XII was to allow two Prop 48 athletes on campus, but they couldn't be in the same sport. Shortly afterwards, the NCAA did away with Prop 48 athletes. It actually has nothing to do with the XII offices being in Dallas (proximity to DFW airport), rather than Kansas City.
You just really don't know shite, do you?
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 10:32 am
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:24 am to 14&Counting
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Texas will always make decisions based on academics and money... academics being the predominant factor.
You do realize you are in a conference with the likes of Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Okie State. Baylor and TCU are overpriced and underwhelming. When other schools deserted the Big 12, you went and got West Virginia. Oh, and forgot to mention Iowa State.
Face it the Big 12 is an awful conference. You have one decent conference game in OU and the rest are crap. Your attendance has been down and your brand isn't what it used to be. No one watches the LHN.
You would be fortunate to get an SEC invite at this point because your league is joke.
that was well thought out.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:24 am to Bubbles Up
Not true at all.
In 2011 everyone was suppose to go to the PAC 12 and you bailed
Take this from what I have heard Oklahoma St will never see the PAC 12
T Boone Pickens is not a well liked man on the West Coast because of a certain proposition in California
In 2011 everyone was suppose to go to the PAC 12 and you bailed
Take this from what I have heard Oklahoma St will never see the PAC 12
T Boone Pickens is not a well liked man on the West Coast because of a certain proposition in California
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:27 am to Bubbles Up
Within the next ten years, I predict Texas will join the ACC as the 16th member. This will occur when ND joins as a football member. ND will want Texas to join the League at the same time to help maintain ND's national schedule.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:28 am to dlc83
These Aggy fans think that no one wants UT and that A&M is now the #1 university in Texas
Delusional I tell you
Delusional I tell you
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:29 am to Bubbles Up
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OU values academics the same way as UT so both of these universities might be rivals on the field but off the field they are very similar
I think Tennessee is higher but they are pretty close academically to Oklahoma
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:34 am to Cheese Grits
Neither school is even close to being in the southeast, so why would they be in the SEC? That's idiotic. We don't need them or want them. The SEC is already tough enough.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:35 am to Cheese Grits
OU wants to be considered a top research university more than anything else
They need UT for that because UT is AAU but importantly UT is a big player inside that organization
Texas can help Oklahoma into the BIG or the PAC 12
Without Texas neither conference wants OU
They need UT for that because UT is AAU but importantly UT is a big player inside that organization
Texas can help Oklahoma into the BIG or the PAC 12
Without Texas neither conference wants OU
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:36 am to OldSchoolHorn
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Texas will always make decisions based on academics and money... academics being the predominant factor.
To be fair, Patterson is proof this is not true. Look I feel sorry for you guys hiring him and he did more to wreck Texas than any team in the old B12 did. Dodds probably was retained too long and I blame Brown for diluting the Texas schedule for more wins. If you really are a Texas fan do you really think I am wrong here? I respected DKR for scheduling but Mack Brown scheduled for his own end.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:38 am to A LeBlanc
texas would come in thinking they run shite.
no thanks. frick texas
no thanks. frick texas
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