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re: Congrats to Emma Weyant for winning the NCAA 500 free

Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:21 am to
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:21 am to
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though he was like the #462 ranked male in college swimming.

65th in the 500 freestyle. You can check it out here.

Dude was 11.47 seconds off the American record in this event, doesn't even qualify for ncaas. If you're a woman swimming 11.47 off the American record in 500 freestyle, not only do you qualify for ncaas... you fricking medal
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 11:26 am
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:22 am to
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Biologically though, unless a person undergoes it BEFORE puberty, you'd still have the benefit of years of increased testosterone increasing your muscle mass. These levels would only serve to prove you wouldn't be currently at those levels.

Agreed.

Men typically have larger muscles, denser bones, and higher fractions of lean body mass (less fat).

They also have a higher oxygen-carrying capacity, because testosterone stimulates bone marrow to produce more red blood cells.

Cosmetic surgery or even hormone replacement after the fact will not significantly mitigate these inherent physical differences.
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:29 am to
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There are gray areas where I can understand both sides.


Both sides of what exactly?
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:39 am to
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Both sides of what exactly?

If this post was on the OT, now would be a good time to respond with "As a woman..."
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2208 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:40 am to
Will Thomas swam 3 years at the collegiate level and had no significant success. So his senior year he puts on a woman’s suit to compete against women? F**k all you “woke” liberals. My 13 year old grandaughter has been swimming competitively for 5 years. Her hard work has gotten her in the top twenty in her event in the state. So what’s the fairness of a swinging dick that has trained and competed as a man suddenly switching over to compete as woman at the collegiate/Olympic level?
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 11:43 am
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:53 am to
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Will Thomas swam 3 years at the collegiate level and had no significant success. So his senior year he puts on a woman’s suit to compete against women? F**k all you “woke” liberals. My 13 year old grandaughter has been swimming competitively for 5 years. Her hard work has gotten her in the top twenty in her event in the state. So what’s the fairness of a swinging dick that has trained and competed as a man suddenly switching over to compete as woman at the collegiate/Olympic level?


Lia lived as a white male for 99 percent of her life so it's not a big surprise she felt entitled to exploit the rules for her own gain and to the detriment of women. She may feel like a woman but these are the actions of a specific kind of man.

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17911 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:00 pm to
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My 13 year old grandaughter has been swimming competitively for 5 years. Her hard work has gotten her in the top twenty in her event in the state. So what’s the fairness of a swinging dick that has trained and competed as a man suddenly switching over to compete as woman at the collegiate/Olympic level?

That won't get you a dime in scholarship money or even a preferred walk on status as a guy... but it will as a woman. Where's the fairness in that That's the underlying rub in this ordeal. Lesser qualified women have been benefitting for decades.
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:08 pm to
So you’re saying women are “lesser” if they can’t keep up with guys competing against them in women’s sports? That’s bullshite.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:09 pm to
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Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:12 pm to
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common sense and fairness should fit in the equation too.

Life isn't fair and when you try to make it so you have to reject common sense. Life rewards strength. If that strength is used to support subjective "fairness" you end up with a reality that doesn't make sense as it goes against natural order.

The path to this is paved with good intentions.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2750 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:55 pm to
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I see it differently, if she had gone thru all of camp and sacrificed on the scout team like college players do, i would have no problem. Her competitive advantage was being a female...

As it pertains to swimming, this is what their parents elected. Its truly hilarous to me. I think its awful personally, but this is what the academic world gives us.


I think you may be glamourizing how much "sacrifice" a scout team kicker on Vanderbilt goes through.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 1:13 pm to
Not so long ago society treated mental illness.

Now we're supposed to celebrate it.

Insanity.
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
1829 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 1:21 pm to
I guarantee we will eventually see 40 year old dudes “identifying as 16 years old” so they can bone minors. This rejection of objective truth is only getting started
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 1:28 pm to
To my knowledge, kickers have to be at all practices, all conditioning, and spend days as the obsession on the first team kick and field goal coverage teams.

I think you underestimate how much goes into being an sec football player. Do you have a vagina?
Posted by BLG
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Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 1:39 pm to
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So you’re saying women are “lesser” if they can’t keep up with guys competing against them in women’s sports? That’s bull shite.




Your concern should be less about men vs women and more about men in women's spots vs women.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17911 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 1:50 pm to
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So you’re saying women are “lesser” if they can’t keep up with guys competing against them in women’s sports? That’s bullshite.

No, I'm saying lesser as in women ranked lower nationally getting more scholarship money than higher ranked men

I say this as someone who held a state record for 13 years, and had a single digit national age group ranking. I may understand the ins and outs of swimming more than someone whose only affiliation with the sport is your grandkid swims. I also swam in college and know exactly what quality female swimmer gets equivalent scholarship money to a guy.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2208 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 1:53 pm to
You’re saying say a 10th ranked woman swimmer gets more money than a 10th ranked me s swimmer? No way.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17911 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 1:56 pm to
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You’re saying say a 10th ranked woman swimmer gets more money than a 10th ranked me s swimmer? No way.

that's exactly what I'm saying, gramps. That's the difference in men only getting 9.9 scholarships to fill a team vs women getting 14. It maths out to equivalent women getting 41.41repeating% more scholarship $ over an equivalent male. That's not equality, or even equity. It's one ginormous pile of bullshite they've been benefitting from for decades.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 2:01 pm
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2750 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 2:05 pm to
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To my knowledge, kickers have to be at all practices, all conditioning, and spend days as the obsession on the first team kick and field goal coverage teams.

I think you underestimate how much goes into being an sec football player. Do you have a vagina?


Awww somebody got der feewings huwt and stawted sayin the mean man has a vagina...

I guess the guy who thinks a regular walk-on kicker at Vandy has a hard life is the tough guy here. Makes sense.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21871 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 2:06 pm to
They voted for this. Let them enjoy it
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