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re: CONFIRMED: Currie and VOLS boosters have been in Tampa since yesterday meeting with GRUDEN

Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:40 pm to
All I know is Avila got some guests recently...
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:41 pm to
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What am I missing?

I don't dispute he has concerns, but are you totally dismissing that he won a super bowl? You don't think that counts for anything as a coach?
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:41 pm to
MTSECGA
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:44 pm to
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I can't wait for UT to dish out $10 million on a guy that hasn't recruited since 1990.





So let me make sure i fully understand you. You think because he hasnt technically been on a recruiting trip in quite sometime, that an ex superbowl winning coach that has had a chair on monday night football for like 8 years, whom also has a special qb development show, will have no luck sitting in a recruits home? However matt rhule might? I can get the "he might not be a good college coach" argument but you can damn near lock it up he would kill recruiting.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:45 pm to
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That's the dumbest fricking thing I've ever heard.


I will humor you with a somewhat rational response (in between seeing if Kelly's plane has landed)

What pro coach with very limited CFB experience has been successful at the college level?

Gruden has never recruited. He has not coached college players in a long time. His offense seems to be overly complex for the college game. He could adapt to something that could be taught in 20 hours a week, but that is something yet to be seen.

Strong has been a successful P5 coach outside of the Texas program. He can coach defense and recruit. He seems to have offenses that put up points.

Neither are my number 1 pick for UF, but I would rather have Strong at UF. I would legit fear Strong at UT.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:47 pm to
I'd be more worried about him breaking the 1030943073083049839 ncaa recruiting rules solely because he hasn't been in the college arena for a couple decades.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15817 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Who's scared of Gruden to be honest? 

He hasn't recruited a high school player in 28 years and hasn't coached a game since he was fired from his last coaching job 9 years ago... 

What am I missing?


What was Sabans record in the NFL before being fired? Petrino and Saban both looked like hammered dog arse in the NFL and failed miserably. They turned out to be great college coaches. But Gruden, the guy who won a Superbowl, should have coached in 2, and won 5 divisional titles at the highest level will fail in college?

You don't think that a guy who has had the highest level of success (Superbowl) on the toughest stage in his profession (NFL) couldn't move down to an easier platform and continue having success? He's immediately one of CFB's most elite coaches the second he's hired.

Him busting Nick Sabans arse on his failed attempt in the NFL is just a bonus.

He obviously needs to put together a staff of elite recruiters and guys who know the ins and outs of CFB to be successful.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 12:51 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119121 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:49 pm to
Shh... This is what the rest of the SEC wants. If people want to think because he's on MNF that he doesn't have to work to recruit talent, let them. Huge mistake, but it's only obvious to those who understand what recruiting entails, which obviously isn't most of the rant fans.
Posted by Buster180
Member since Jun 2017
1455 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:53 pm to
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What pro coach with very limited CFB experience has been successful at the college level?


There is simply not enough data to prove your point one way or the other.

Wannstedt led Pittsburgh to one of their best years in program history. It took him a while to gain traction.

Gruden was a better NFL coach than Wannstedt though.

Pete Carroll was pretty good too, iirc.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:57 pm to
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kywildcatfanone


I don't have the time today to explain how stupid you are and why, but we will revisit this. Tell your father in law that you called down the THUNDAHH and now it's coming.


And hells coming with me, you hear? HELL'S COMING WITH ME
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15817 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:01 pm to
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kywildcatfanone


You've been a little spicy on here lately, user CheeseGrits.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 1:03 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24983 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:08 pm to
Harbaugh had a team play in the Super Bowl and he has a ton of prior experience.

He's doing great at Michigan.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11559 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:09 pm to
I think it'd be badass to have Gruden. That said, what proof is there that he would be a successful coach?
Posted by Buster180
Member since Jun 2017
1455 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:09 pm to
I sense sarcasm in your post, but he was looking for coaches without considerable college experience.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64611 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

What pro coach with very limited CFB experience has been successful at the college level?

Pete Carroll
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50386 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:13 pm to
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Pete Carroll


He was a GA to DC for just over a decade before he went to the NFL.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24983 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:13 pm to
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Pete Carroll


And brought some of the heaviest sanctions down on the program in the history of college football as well.

ETA: only once has a Heisman been pulled from a player and it happened under his watch...
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64611 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:14 pm to
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And brought some of the heaviest sanctions down on the program in the history of college football as well.

oh so this is the strawman you're going with?

quote:

ETA: only once has a Heisman been pulled from a player and it happened under his watch...

So this means he was a bad coach at the college level?
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64611 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:15 pm to
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He was a GA to DC for just over a decade before he went to the NFL.



and then spent over 15 years out of college football...
Posted by Torch
Northshore Dr
Member since Feb 2017
3282 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:16 pm to
I'm really curious what "proof" would prove anything about a coach during a coaching search. There ain't no such thing as a guarantee in this process.

NFL vs college, different conferences, assistant coaches and support staff, facilities differences, fan base differences, etc can all affect the success of a coach. It doesn't matter who we look at, it's going to be "he will fail because X, Y and Z" or "you won't get him because X, Y and Z."

Most VOLS fans are more excited about the possibilities with Gruden then sure of the results IMO.
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