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re: Comparing LSUs Dave Aranda's stats to A&Ms Chavis'
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:07 am to GRTiger
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:07 am to GRTiger
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How is that fact?
The fact was that Les was let go.
I do think it was likely Chavis would have gone with him given the fact that Joe tried to give Chavis a contract with a clause that tied his employment to Les. To me that shows Joe's intentions.
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:10 am to therick711
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Chavis was going to get fired so he's smart, even though he's probably going to get fired anyway.
No way he gets fired this offseason, and even if we did he would get a buyout because his contract with us never had a "Sumlin Clause."
Using us to avoid the contract Joe tried to give him with the Les Clause in it was very smart. We didn't benefit from it but it netted him over a million dollars he wouldn't have made probably.
What would you do for a million dollars?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:15 am to cardboardboxer
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What would you do for a million dollars?
Be a good coach and get a raise that doubled my salary. See LSU's current DC for reference.
That very common clause you are speaking of was a part of the contract for most of LSU's current staff, including the ones that will be on staff next year, and including the current HC.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:19 am to GRTiger
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That very common clause was a part of the contract for most of LSU's current staff, including the ones that will be on staff next year, and including the current HC.
Your current head coach was just hired by LSU a year ago. He was on the original contract. I could see a clause like that for a first contract.
Chavis was looking at an extension, aka a contract after work had been done. Normally you treat such guys better.
I mean does Aranda's new contract have a "Coach O Clause?" I bet not for that reason.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:22 am to cardboardboxer
Aggy is proud of being leveraged. Wonderful. Maybe he'll coach next year for you guys. Just keep an eye on that pass rush. It goes away quick.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:26 am to radicalizedtigah
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Aranda’s LSU defense finished the regular season sixth in the country in scoring defense, second nationally in fewest touchdowns allowed, and 13th nationally in total defense. (Not bad for his first year on the job at LSU!)
Dat passin' defense doe.....
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:27 am to cardboardboxer
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Chavis was looking at an extension, aka a contract after work had been done. Normally you treat such guys better.
Clearly LSU knew he wasnt that great and suckered yall into over paying him
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:35 am to therick711
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Aggy is proud of being leveraged. Wonderful.
I am not proud of it, just giving credit where credit is due. He played us and got a big payday out of it. Good for him.
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Maybe he'll coach next year for you guys.
I would bet on it.
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Just keep an eye on that pass rush. It goes away quick.
Well yeah. He is getting drafted in the first round for sure.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:36 am to radicalizedtigah
I remember when mods locked Chavis threads on this site. I guess they're okay again.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:37 am to SDVTiger
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Clearly LSU knew he wasnt that great and suckered yall into over paying him
I don't think LSU intended for us to get involved.
We know that Joe eventually gave Chavis a counter-offer without the Les Clause so it isn't like LSU ran him off.
We just got played because we wanted a solution that wasn't all out firing Sumlin. Turns out such a solution didn't exist.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:39 am to 3andOut
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Hes recruits aren't in yet and the few that are are VERY VERY young... Lets hold judgement for 3-4 years and reassess.
Agree with this assessment. Let's see what Aranda does with his recruits vice Miles and Chavis recruits.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:40 am
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:49 am to Hugh McElroy
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I remember when mods locked Chavis threads on this site. I guess they're okay again.
Hell I remember when we couldn't start threads about a guy who is currently a backup at OU.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:59 am to cardboardboxer
Chavis last two seasons @LSU
2013
Scoring 21
Rush 36
Pass 13
Total 15
2014
Scoring 4
Rush 47
Pass 3
Total 9
@ Aggy
2015
Scoring 28
Rush 108
Pass 4
Total. 51
2016
Scoring. 37
Rush. 75
Pass. 97
Total. 91
2013
Scoring 21
Rush 36
Pass 13
Total 15
2014
Scoring 4
Rush 47
Pass 3
Total 9
@ Aggy
2015
Scoring 28
Rush 108
Pass 4
Total. 51
2016
Scoring. 37
Rush. 75
Pass. 97
Total. 91
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:02 pm to Jenar Boy
2015 I think he did a good job. We allowed a lot of rushing yards but frankly we had more injuries in the LB corps than this year.
The real issue is (as you posted) 2016 was a step back across the board.
Which fricking sucks when you consider it looks like Mazzone was actually a great hire. UCLA fell apart this season without him.
The real issue is (as you posted) 2016 was a step back across the board.
Which fricking sucks when you consider it looks like Mazzone was actually a great hire. UCLA fell apart this season without him.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:01 pm to cardboardboxer
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Mazzone was actually a great hire
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:04 pm to SDVTiger
It was. We had a top 30 offense with a QB that couldn't throw worth a shite.
Last year we barely had a top 50 offense with two five star talents.
Mazzone is probably our best hire under Sumlin.
Last year we barely had a top 50 offense with two five star talents.
Mazzone is probably our best hire under Sumlin.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:30 pm to therick711
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Member when Mark Snyder was fired and aggy told everyone the problem wasn't talent?
Member when Mark Snyder went to Michigan State and within a year they went from Big Ten champions to 3-9?
I member.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:42 pm to radicalizedtigah
I will always respect Chavis because he was the guy behind one of the best defenses ever imo. That 2011 defense was ridiculous.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:54 pm to radicalizedtigah
There is tons of offensive talent in Texas, but not a whole lot of defensive talent.
And even when you do find talented defenders, they can often count the number of power run offenses they faced in high school on their fingers, and have some left over. The proliferation of of air raid offenses in Texas high schools has seriously undermined the development of defensive skills.
If Chavis is going to build an SEC caliber defense, he has to start pulling run stoppers out of Louisiana, and the deep south states.
And even when you do find talented defenders, they can often count the number of power run offenses they faced in high school on their fingers, and have some left over. The proliferation of of air raid offenses in Texas high schools has seriously undermined the development of defensive skills.
If Chavis is going to build an SEC caliber defense, he has to start pulling run stoppers out of Louisiana, and the deep south states.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 2:00 pm to cardboardboxer
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Mazzone is probably our best hire under Sumlin.
Sad situation in CS if this is what you are claiming
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