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re: College Football Coach Rankings: Greg McElroy releases Top 25 head coaches
Posted on 3/27/25 at 3:46 pm to 3down10
Posted on 3/27/25 at 3:46 pm to 3down10
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No doubt, but it's basically true for any non SEC team.
To an extent, but at least other programs competing for titles in that era had at least a couple of schools that were close to them in talent. Clemson was head and shoulders above the rest of their conference and it wasn't even close.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:03 pm to 3down10
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No, I expect Texas and LSU fans to cry like bitches over it. I knew it when I made it. I know it every time I make a list it's impossible to please everyone. So I don't give a frick.
The fact of the matter is I think your coach is a joke.
What I also expect is not a single one you ignorant fricks will make a real argument of your own. I gave actual reasons why I have my opinion, you just whine like a bitch.
Go ahead, make your own list so you can put Sark #2 and it'll be just like I said to start with, there is a clear #1 in Kirby and the rest is just clickbait bullshite to appease fans.
You seem a little triggered. I have no issue with Sark not being in the top 5, its your other choices that make it such a terrible list.
Lets start with Dabo. Yes hes won a national championship, but he's failed to evolve with the game. He just this off season has started using the transfer portal. Having him at 3 is a joke.
Next we have Freeman at 4, I don't think thats terrible.
Lanning at 5... Considering you said Sark and Lanning both own their success to NIL, yet Sark actually has more playoff success than Lanning would make this choice questionable at best.
Kiffin at 6, is alright.
Now Kirby at 1 is undeniable.
Deboer at 2 is laughable. We just watched him take the most talented team in the country to an 9-3 record and then lost to a 7-5 Michigan team. Sure he's 5-0 against Lanning and Sark, and Thomas Hammock is 1-0 against Marcus Freeman... That doesn't mean hes a better coach.
Finally not having Ryan Day on the list is just dumb.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:33 pm to Murph4HOF
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If the bowl game vs. Texas was any indicator of how he can coach, Kenny Dillingham is very underrated on this list.
I was about to type the same thing. They are going to have a hard time holding on to him.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:35 pm to HorninHouston
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They are going to have a hard time holding on to him.
He's at his alma mater. Another school could steal him, but they'd have to way outbid ASU.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:36 pm to 3down10
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No, I expect Texas and LSU fans to cry like bitches over it. I knew it when I made it. I know it every time I make a list it's impossible to please everyone. So I don't give a frick. The fact of the matter is I think your coach is a joke. What I also expect is not a single one you ignorant fricks will make a real argument of your own. I gave actual reasons why I have my opinion, you just whine like a bitch. Go ahead, make your own list so you can put Sark #2 and it'll be just like I said to start with, there is a clear #1 in Kirby and the rest is just clickbait bullshite to appease fans.
not crying. You have a right to your list just as we do. I don't think sark is a top 5 head coach right now. I'd put him in the 6-10 range. What he does do it keep us in the conversation and that's all you can ask for as a fan. If you are right there every year, eventually you'll break through. Just ask OSU fans.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:39 pm to TexasOnTop
quote:Not just his alma mater, but he is from Scottsdale.
He's at his alma mater. Another school could steal him, but they'd have to way outbid ASU.
Southern Cal and UCLA sucking is usually good for Arizona State recruiting. I wonder if that holds true in the B1G/B12 though.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:41 pm to TexasOnTop
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He's at his alma mater. Another school could steal him, but they'd have to way outbid ASU.
With the money some are throwing at coaches it's going to be hard for him to resist the jump if they come calling. We'll find out just how much he loves asu if they can't match some of these offers.
Then again he could be a one hit wonder and fall off the map this season. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:52 pm to TrueLefty
I like Sark but have trouble putting him in the top 5 at this point. Was out coached in both Georgia games, ASU game, Ohio State game.
First and goal from the one…
He may end up being a top 5 or even top 2-3 but to me still has to show he can win the really big ones.
First and goal from the one…
He may end up being a top 5 or even top 2-3 but to me still has to show he can win the really big ones.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:58 pm to TrueLefty
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7. Dabo Swinney – Clemson
I despise Clemson with every fiber of my being, but this is ridiculous. Dabo turned Clemson from a phrase (Clemsoning) into a powerhouse and multiple national championship squad.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 5:00 pm to TexasOnTop
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You seem a little triggered. I have no issue with Sark not being in the top 5, its your other choices that make it such a terrible list.
I'm gen X. We don't get triggered, we do the triggering.
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Lets start with Dabo. Yes hes won a national championship, but he's failed to evolve with the game. He just this off season has started using the transfer portal. Having him at 3 is a joke.
Did you miss the part where the list I made is the order in which I would want to hire them to coach at Alabama? Clemson does not have the resources to compete with NIL. If he came to Alabama, he would obviously have the resources needed to bring in better classes/recruits as he did when he was having success.
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Lanning at 5... Considering you said Sark and Lanning both own their success to NIL, yet Sark actually has more playoff success than Lanning would make this choice questionable at best.
Lanning is still a newer coach. Sark is not. Sark's scheme generates too many negative plays that kills drives and relies heavily on explosive plays. It's bad in the redzone and I just think he's not a great coach in general. I've been watching him since he was 7 win Sark at Washington.
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Deboer at 2 is laughable. We just watched him take the most talented team in the country to an 9-3 record and then lost to a 7-5 Michigan team. Sure he's 5-0 against Lanning and Sark, and Thomas Hammock is 1-0 against Marcus Freeman... That doesn't mean hes a better coach.
He took over the team that made Saban retire. Saban looked at the team, the incoming class and where things were and was like - frick this, I'm out.
I think we saw why. With good QB play, probably a 1 loss team at most.
So yeah, I think I'll wait until we see what he does outside his first year considering his history. If he's doing the same thing over the next few years like some others on the list, he'll get fired.
Claiming a trap game win is like 5-0 in big games is what's dumb. Oregon vs Washington is a big time rivalry in case you weren't aware. And I'm sure you know where the Sark losses come from.
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Finally not having Ryan Day on the list is just dumb.
He would have been fired if not for the DEI playoffs. Any other year, it's a bowl game and he is fired. He also lost to the same 7-5 Michigan team you cited against DeBoer, for the 4th year in a row. In fact, Michigan wouldn't have been bowl eligible otherwise, Ohio St was their 6th win and Alabama was the 7th. Considering what he was given, he shouldn't have had more than 1 loss - if that.
And since national championships are easier to win now, I'm not given it as much credit. Again, dude would have been fired otherwise.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 5:04 pm to HorninHouston
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not crying. You have a right to your list just as we do. I don't think sark is a top 5 head coach right now. I'd put him in the 6-10 range. What he does do it keep us in the conversation and that's all you can ask for as a fan. If you are right there every year, eventually you'll break through. Just ask OSU fans.
That's reasonable.
I just don't like his scheme at all. For all the talk of him being an offensive guru, I think it's your defense that is the highlight and your offense holds it back.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 5:57 pm to 3down10
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just don't like his scheme at all. For all the talk of him being an offensive guru, I think it's your defense that is the highlight and your offense holds it back.
I said the exact same thing all last season and caught shite for it. We need a dedicated offensive coordinator and I think that’s what’s really holding us back more than anything. We could certainly do a lot worse than him though.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 5:57 pm to TexasOnTop
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Next we have Freeman at 4, I don't think thats terrible
Freeman is the flavor of the week, he kind of took over that spot when Cignetti started losing.
No one even brings up the fact that Freeman took over a playoff level program and has lost to two G5 teams in 3 seasons and Stanford, who is basically a G5.
Imagine if any of the rest of these guys had two G5 losses in three seasons.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 6:58 pm to TrueLefty
No way BK is Top 10! He have talents but do not coach the talents! I have been saying this! Drinkwitz have no talents but coach the no talents good.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 7:13 pm to Imber
Here is what I am saying with many others. Drinkwitz just need more time to get more 4 or 5 star talents. He did not have many 4 or 5 star talents when he was made hired mostly only 3 star talents. He have only been at Mizzou for 5 years! He is little experience.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 7:29 pm to Murph4HOF
The potential for the school is very high. Locationally it’s sandwiched in between CA and TX, so it’s got very solid recruiting ties.
With the alumni base being so large, if they get the right guy running their collective they could be a top 5 collective.
With the alumni base being so large, if they get the right guy running their collective they could be a top 5 collective.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 7:30 pm to TrueLefty
When I see Sark at the top I laugh out loud. He’s never want anything as a head coach and his overall coaching record is piss poor it’s just so funny
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:17 pm to 3down10
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I just don't like his scheme at all. For all the talk of him being an offensive guru, I think it's your defense that is the highlight and your offense holds it back.
100%
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:52 pm to TrueLefty
I see McElroy thinks highly of Hugh.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:02 am to SidewalkTiger
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Here is what I am saying with many others. Drinkwitz just need more time to get more 4 or 5 star talents. He did not have many 4 or 5 star talents when he was made hired mostly only 3 star talents. He have only been at Mizzou for 5 years! He is little experience.
You are an idiot! Mizzou never gets many 4* recruits and gets maybe gets 1 5* recruit. What changed in the last 2 years? Drinkwitz was able to get more than 6 4* recruits and gets at least 1 5* recruit because of NIL and the new transfer portal rule change became available.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 12:06 am
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