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re: College Football Coach Rankings: Greg McElroy releases Top 25 head coaches

Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16964 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Marcus Freeman is a young, up and coming head coach whereas Brian Kelly is on the back end of his career. I'm not saying it's right, but it's not hard to se why some people would think that Marcus Freeman is currently a better head coach.
Marcus Freeman also took over a program that Brian Kelly built, and had a worse record every season until last year. He then accomplished nothing more than Brian Kelly already accomplished at Notre Dame. Meanwhile, Kelly took over a dumpster fire and has turned it into a consistent winner. Kind of like he's done at every single stop he's been at.

Freeman hasn't done anything that Brian Kelly has already done at Notre Dame. In fact, he did worse before he even equaled what Kelly had already done.


This is about what the coaches have done lately and what the coming season's possible outlook looks like.
Posted by Porcine Human
Benton, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11456 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:06 pm to
Bert


Honestly that list is unimpressive as a whole
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
6010 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:06 pm to
James Franklin?
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16964 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:18 pm to
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James Franklin?

How did he do last year? Not the previous year. And might get his team to make the playoffs again this year.
I think this one I used makes more sense. "This is about what the coaches have done lately and what the coming season's possible outlook looks like."
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Your Mom’s house
Member since Dec 2024
540 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Edit: Also, I think BV was a big part of Dabo's success.


Venables became just another guy when his surveillance scheme of signal stealing was uncovered. You see he has underperformed at Oklahoma. And barring a 10 win season he’s gonna be fired within a year or two. And 10 wins seasons in the SEC is a very difficult task for Oklahoma. This ain’t the Big 12
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
6748 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:35 pm to
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6. Kalen DeBoer – Alabama




Is this based on immediately running Nick Saban's program into the ground?
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16964 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:35 pm to
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If someone wants to make the argument that Dabo is overrated, then the argument has to be the ultra soft ACC that he played in every year. Clemson was usually 10-20 spots in recruiting rankings over the next best team, and the conference average was probably 30-40 spots below Clemson.

By contrast anyone winning the SEC was competing against with at least half of the 10 most talented teams in the country, sometimes more - and usually all but 1 or 2 in the top 20.

So if you want to call out Dabo for anything, it's probably that. His teams never faced the gauntlet that the SEC representatives di


No doubt, but it's basically true for any non SEC team.

I know they have dropped off dramatically in recruiting. From top3 classes to not even in the top25 recruiting classes.

The ACC is the biggest loser from the NIL era, so it's just going to get worse. IIRC Miami was the best class and they weren't even in the top10.

Edit: Also, I think BV was a big part of Dabo's success.

Dabo just now making adjustments. We will see when LSU and Clemson play each other the first game of the season. That game should give you an idea who will be ready and have a better chance to make the playoffs this coming season.
Posted by DBird
Member since Nov 2023
741 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:39 pm to
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We will see when LSU and Clemson play each other the first game of the season


Do we get a Kelly fist slam again?
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
6748 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:40 pm to
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Do we get a Kelly fist slam again?


Most likely. There is absolutely no excuse for opening on the road at Clemson. It's really dumb to play that game, better off opening with UMASS or some other dud.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
72708 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:46 pm to
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8. Jeff Brohm – Louisville
Would love to hear the logic behind this
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5309 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:49 pm to
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1. Kirby
2. DeBoer
3. Dabo
4. Freeman
5. Lanning
6. Kiffin


That list is worse than Greg's.

Posted by BlindedMeWithScience
VFL in B1G country
Member since Jun 2023
2787 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:52 pm to
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16. Bret Bielema – Illinois

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18. Shane Beamer – South Carolina


Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33917 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 3:16 pm to
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6. Kalen DeBoer – Alabama


List is trash
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
8742 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 3:23 pm to
In what world could you have DuBose listed ahead of Sweeney?

DuBose took Washington to the playoffs in a horrific PAC-12 with a unicorn at QB and got blown out by Michigan.

Then he proceeded to get beat by a bad Michigan team again a year later.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 3:24 pm to
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That list is worse than Greg's.


Well yeah, you're a stupid fricking Texas fan who thinks Sark is a good coach.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 3:26 pm to
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Dabo just now making adjustments. We will see when LSU and Clemson play each other the first game of the season. That game should give you an idea who will be ready and have a better chance to make the playoffs this coming season.


I think LSU gonna win that one.

The crazy thing about last year is that Miami was probably the best ACC team and they stayed at home.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5309 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 3:29 pm to
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Well yeah


So you agree that your list is garbage?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 3:35 pm to
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So you agree that your list is garbage?


No, I expect Texas and LSU fans to cry like bitches over it. I knew it when I made it. I know it every time I make a list it's impossible to please everyone. So I don't give a frick.

The fact of the matter is I think your coach is a joke.

What I also expect is not a single one you ignorant fricks will make a real argument of your own. I gave actual reasons why I have my opinion, you just whine like a bitch.

Go ahead, make your own list so you can put Sark #2 and it'll be just like I said to start with, there is a clear #1 in Kirby and the rest is just clickbait bullshite to appease fans.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Aggie1965
Member since Apr 2021
213 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 3:36 pm to
Using Greg McElroy to rate coaches is like using Alec Baldwin for gun safety instructions.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
12773 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 3:39 pm to
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Would love to hear the logic behind this


He took Purdue to a Big Ten Championship game and he beat multiple top 5 teams while he was there. That is impressive in itself

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