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re: College baseball Bluebloods

Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:44 pm to
Not even close to Mike Martin with over 20 CWS appearances and no titles.
Posted by Cornelius
1800s
Member since Aug 2012
1102 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:54 pm to
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fricking Vandy. 5 trips to Omaha, 20 wins, 2 championships. 4 wins average per trip.

Don't expect us back any time soon...
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2746 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:21 pm to
That's like saying small teams like Butler or TCU making it to a national championship game in a big money sport didn't happen

Who said that? Or did you change what I said to fit your narrative?
Posted by Corriente Kid
Central Texas
Member since Aug 2021
578 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:23 pm to
"The crazy thing is having only 4 different head coaches from 1911-2016. That is some crazy stability they’ve had for a century."

Yah, that is probably an even crazier statistic.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2746 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:25 pm to
Some of the SEC baseball games ratings outperform half of the MLB.

What does that have to do with blue bloods? Point to the team that consistently out performs pro teams in ratings. Not some outlier one game.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8700 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:33 pm to
It feels like South Carolina should be on the fringe for this list. Title appearences in 75 and 77, 02, 10',11',12' .

I get why we wouldn't be, but if this year 2013 I bet most folks would have us in there. Especially with how many 40+ win seasons we had in a row (14 I think).

But I get why we wouldn't be on there
Posted by KootAR
Member since Jul 2015
803 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:09 pm to
it cuts me deep to be excluded from that list
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42913 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:16 pm to
Johnson took them the CWS championship his first year there
Posted by Corriente Kid
Central Texas
Member since Aug 2021
578 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:43 pm to
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I was just looking for something relevant to the discussion, and that is the one I found. I may have been able to find a more recent one, but I didn't spend a lot of time on it.


I didn't mean it as a criticism. More to the fact that may be the last article written on this topic.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
8863 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:46 pm to
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What is significant about 1990?

Georgia won the College World Series, the first SEC program to do so!!!
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
8863 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:51 pm to
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I had no idea Texas had 593 more wins than the second-most winning team, Stanford. That is crazy.

Imagine having all those wins with only 6 national titles to show for them.

USC has been to just over half the number of CWS appearances that Texas has, yet has won twice the number of national titles (12) than Texas has (6).

I guess that's what they call, "Texas fight" (yeah, right).
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1312 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:00 pm to
imagine being as obsessed with another program as this guy is. It used to be comical. Now it's just sad.
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4857 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:03 pm to
If you go by Regional appearances it would look like this:

Most Regional appearances
School Appearances
Texas 63
Florida State 60
Miami (FL) 49
Oklahoma State 49
Clemson 46
Cal State Fullerton 41
Arizona State 40
Oklahoma 40
Arizona 39
Florida 39
Stanford 38
Mississippi State. 38
St. John's 38
Texas A&M 38
USC 37
North Carolina. 36
LSU 36

This list gives you an idea of the programs that have been consistently good for 75 years. Pretty solid group there.
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
1511 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:05 pm to
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-USC Trojans (12 National Championships)
-LSU Tigers (7 National Championships)
-Texas Longhorns (6 National Championships)
-Arizona State Sun Devils (5 National Championships)
-Miami Hurricanes (4 National Championships)
-Cal State Fullerton (4 National Championships)
-Arizona Wildcats (4 National Championships)


This is a good enough list for me, but then so is just Texas and LSU.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
11605 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:08 pm to
LSU is one of the schools that’s a blue blood in football and baseball. Texas, Miami, and USC are probably the only other ones that can make that claim.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17774 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 7:32 pm to
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LSU is one of the schools that’s a blue blood in football and baseball. Texas, Miami, and USC are probably the only other ones that can make that claim.

Troll, Troll, Troll your boat..
Gently down the stream..
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
957 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 7:48 pm to
When I get some time I'll research when ESPN started airing the CWS, and how that changed the number of days to complete the tournament.
Back in the late 60s/early 70s the tournament of 8 teams was over in about one week. The winning teams had to have 3 good starting pitchers. The tournament now lasts a couple of weeks or more. Two dominant pitchers can get a championship in today's CWS.

I would propose that modern blue blood status begins when ESPN started televising all the games and tournament duration was extended.

Edit,
So using Wiki and ESPN sites here is some information. ESPN debuted Sept. 7, 1979. It was a big cable TV deal back then. CWS games begin being broadcast the following year, 1980.
I took the odd # years of each decade (5 yrs/decade for the aggy reader) and averaged the number of days required to complete the CWS
1960s-7.4 days
1970s-8.1 days
1980s-10 days
1990s-9 days
2000s-10.2 days
2010s-12.4 days

Prior to 1988 the CWS was 8 teams, true double elimination tournament. 1983 brought in the double elimination of 2-4 team brackets, with a single championship game final. 2003 changed to the best of three final used currently.

I guess the "Modern Blue Blood" period could start in 1980 which would capture the beginning of ESPN involvement.

IMO it should be a running number dated 50 or 60 years back from the current year, call it 55 years. I pick 50/60 years because that is about the duration of a fan lifetime watching sports. Example for 2025 we should go back to records in 1970. next year use records back to 1971, etc. Blood Blood list would evolve with the sport and participants. Just my opinion.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 6:00 am
Posted by GeauxFish31
Member since May 2024
1508 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:57 pm to
And Oregon State
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
2061 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 10:37 pm to
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I had no idea Texas had 593 more wins than the second-most winning team, Stanford. That is crazy.

Imagine having all those wins with only 6 national titles to show for them.

USC has been to just over half the number of CWS appearances that Texas has, yet has won twice the number of national titles (12) than Texas has (6).
It's kind of a telephones to boxcars comparison.

The College World Series Pre-1975, you had to win 6 games in 6 days if you didn't lose, or play 7 games in 7 days to win 6..

In the "Modern (ESPN) era",
1975, winner won 5 games in 9 days (Texas def Wast St)
1985, winner won 6 games in 12 days (Miami def Texas))
1995, winner won 4 games in 9 days (Cal St Fullerton def So Cal)
2005, winner won 5 games in 10 days (Texas def Florida)
2015, winner won 7 games in 12 days (Virginia def Vanderbilt)
2024, winner won 6 games in 11 days (Tennessee def A&M)

[i]average of 5.5 games in less than 10.5 days, basically 1 game every other day.[/i]

Playing everyday for a week is a much different tournament than playing every other day for 2 weeks.

College Baseball has NEVER been just for kids that didn't get drafted. Smart kids go to college.

Maybe it just wasn't very popular in some parts of the Southeast til the Braves moved to Atlanta.

Texas started playing both Football and Baseball in the 1893-94 school year.

Texas joined the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association (SIAA, predecessor to the SEC) in 1895.

The Charter members of the SIAA included Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Johns Hopkins, Sewanee, and Vanderbilt, and the new members in 1895; Central (Eastern Kentucky), Clemson, Cumberland, Kentucky, LSU, Mercer, Mississippi A&M (Mississippi State), Southwestern Presbyterian University (Rhodes College), Texas, Tulane, and the University of Nashville.
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