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Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:44 pm to Timstrebor
Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:44 pm to Timstrebor
Not even close to Mike Martin with over 20 CWS appearances and no titles.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:54 pm to bigDgator
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fricking Vandy. 5 trips to Omaha, 20 wins, 2 championships. 4 wins average per trip.
Don't expect us back any time soon...
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:21 pm to lowhound
That's like saying small teams like Butler or TCU making it to a national championship game in a big money sport didn't happen
Who said that? Or did you change what I said to fit your narrative?
Who said that? Or did you change what I said to fit your narrative?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:23 pm to vidtiger23
"The crazy thing is having only 4 different head coaches from 1911-2016. That is some crazy stability they’ve had for a century."
Yah, that is probably an even crazier statistic.
Yah, that is probably an even crazier statistic.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:25 pm to lowhound
Some of the SEC baseball games ratings outperform half of the MLB.
What does that have to do with blue bloods? Point to the team that consistently out performs pro teams in ratings. Not some outlier one game.
What does that have to do with blue bloods? Point to the team that consistently out performs pro teams in ratings. Not some outlier one game.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:33 pm to bigDgator
It feels like South Carolina should be on the fringe for this list. Title appearences in 75 and 77, 02, 10',11',12' .
I get why we wouldn't be, but if this year 2013 I bet most folks would have us in there. Especially with how many 40+ win seasons we had in a row (14 I think).
But I get why we wouldn't be on there
I get why we wouldn't be, but if this year 2013 I bet most folks would have us in there. Especially with how many 40+ win seasons we had in a row (14 I think).
But I get why we wouldn't be on there
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:09 pm to bigDgator
it cuts me deep to be excluded from that list
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:16 pm to Granola
Johnson took them the CWS championship his first year there
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:43 pm to bigDgator
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I was just looking for something relevant to the discussion, and that is the one I found. I may have been able to find a more recent one, but I didn't spend a lot of time on it.
I didn't mean it as a criticism. More to the fact that may be the last article written on this topic.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:46 pm to bigDgator
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What is significant about 1990?
Georgia won the College World Series, the first SEC program to do so!!!
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:51 pm to Corriente Kid
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I had no idea Texas had 593 more wins than the second-most winning team, Stanford. That is crazy.
Imagine having all those wins with only 6 national titles to show for them.

USC has been to just over half the number of CWS appearances that Texas has, yet has won twice the number of national titles (12) than Texas has (6).
I guess that's what they call, "Texas fight" (yeah, right).
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:00 pm to JetDawg
imagine being as obsessed with another program as this guy is. It used to be comical. Now it's just sad.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:03 pm to bigDgator
If you go by Regional appearances it would look like this:
Most Regional appearances
School Appearances
Texas 63
Florida State 60
Miami (FL) 49
Oklahoma State 49
Clemson 46
Cal State Fullerton 41
Arizona State 40
Oklahoma 40
Arizona 39
Florida 39
Stanford 38
Mississippi State. 38
St. John's 38
Texas A&M 38
USC 37
North Carolina. 36
LSU 36
This list gives you an idea of the programs that have been consistently good for 75 years. Pretty solid group there.
Most Regional appearances
School Appearances
Texas 63
Florida State 60
Miami (FL) 49
Oklahoma State 49
Clemson 46
Cal State Fullerton 41
Arizona State 40
Oklahoma 40
Arizona 39
Florida 39
Stanford 38
Mississippi State. 38
St. John's 38
Texas A&M 38
USC 37
North Carolina. 36
LSU 36
This list gives you an idea of the programs that have been consistently good for 75 years. Pretty solid group there.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:05 pm to bigDgator
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-USC Trojans (12 National Championships)
-LSU Tigers (7 National Championships)
-Texas Longhorns (6 National Championships)
-Arizona State Sun Devils (5 National Championships)
-Miami Hurricanes (4 National Championships)
-Cal State Fullerton (4 National Championships)
-Arizona Wildcats (4 National Championships)
This is a good enough list for me, but then so is just Texas and LSU.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:08 pm to bigDgator
LSU is one of the schools that’s a blue blood in football and baseball. Texas, Miami, and USC are probably the only other ones that can make that claim.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 7:32 pm to BZ504
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LSU is one of the schools that’s a blue blood in football and baseball. Texas, Miami, and USC are probably the only other ones that can make that claim.
Troll, Troll, Troll your boat..
Gently down the stream..
Posted on 4/2/25 at 7:48 pm to bigDgator
When I get some time I'll research when ESPN started airing the CWS, and how that changed the number of days to complete the tournament.
Back in the late 60s/early 70s the tournament of 8 teams was over in about one week. The winning teams had to have 3 good starting pitchers. The tournament now lasts a couple of weeks or more. Two dominant pitchers can get a championship in today's CWS.
I would propose that modern blue blood status begins when ESPN started televising all the games and tournament duration was extended.
Edit,
So using Wiki and ESPN sites here is some information. ESPN debuted Sept. 7, 1979. It was a big cable TV deal back then. CWS games begin being broadcast the following year, 1980.
I took the odd # years of each decade (5 yrs/decade for the aggy reader) and averaged the number of days required to complete the CWS
1960s-7.4 days
1970s-8.1 days
1980s-10 days
1990s-9 days
2000s-10.2 days
2010s-12.4 days
Prior to 1988 the CWS was 8 teams, true double elimination tournament. 1983 brought in the double elimination of 2-4 team brackets, with a single championship game final. 2003 changed to the best of three final used currently.
I guess the "Modern Blue Blood" period could start in 1980 which would capture the beginning of ESPN involvement.
IMO it should be a running number dated 50 or 60 years back from the current year, call it 55 years. I pick 50/60 years because that is about the duration of a fan lifetime watching sports. Example for 2025 we should go back to records in 1970. next year use records back to 1971, etc. Blood Blood list would evolve with the sport and participants. Just my opinion.
Back in the late 60s/early 70s the tournament of 8 teams was over in about one week. The winning teams had to have 3 good starting pitchers. The tournament now lasts a couple of weeks or more. Two dominant pitchers can get a championship in today's CWS.
I would propose that modern blue blood status begins when ESPN started televising all the games and tournament duration was extended.
Edit,
So using Wiki and ESPN sites here is some information. ESPN debuted Sept. 7, 1979. It was a big cable TV deal back then. CWS games begin being broadcast the following year, 1980.
I took the odd # years of each decade (5 yrs/decade for the aggy reader) and averaged the number of days required to complete the CWS
1960s-7.4 days
1970s-8.1 days
1980s-10 days
1990s-9 days
2000s-10.2 days
2010s-12.4 days
Prior to 1988 the CWS was 8 teams, true double elimination tournament. 1983 brought in the double elimination of 2-4 team brackets, with a single championship game final. 2003 changed to the best of three final used currently.
I guess the "Modern Blue Blood" period could start in 1980 which would capture the beginning of ESPN involvement.
IMO it should be a running number dated 50 or 60 years back from the current year, call it 55 years. I pick 50/60 years because that is about the duration of a fan lifetime watching sports. Example for 2025 we should go back to records in 1970. next year use records back to 1971, etc. Blood Blood list would evolve with the sport and participants. Just my opinion.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 6:00 am
Posted on 4/2/25 at 10:37 pm to JetDawg
quote:It's kind of a telephones to boxcars comparison.
I had no idea Texas had 593 more wins than the second-most winning team, Stanford. That is crazy.
Imagine having all those wins with only 6 national titles to show for them.
USC has been to just over half the number of CWS appearances that Texas has, yet has won twice the number of national titles (12) than Texas has (6).
The College World Series Pre-1975, you had to win 6 games in 6 days if you didn't lose, or play 7 games in 7 days to win 6..
In the "Modern (ESPN) era",
1975, winner won 5 games in 9 days (Texas def Wast St)
1985, winner won 6 games in 12 days (Miami def Texas))
1995, winner won 4 games in 9 days (Cal St Fullerton def So Cal)
2005, winner won 5 games in 10 days (Texas def Florida)
2015, winner won 7 games in 12 days (Virginia def Vanderbilt)
2024, winner won 6 games in 11 days (Tennessee def A&M)
[i]average of 5.5 games in less than 10.5 days, basically 1 game every other day.[/i]
Playing everyday for a week is a much different tournament than playing every other day for 2 weeks.
College Baseball has NEVER been just for kids that didn't get drafted. Smart kids go to college.
Maybe it just wasn't very popular in some parts of the Southeast til the Braves moved to Atlanta.
Texas started playing both Football and Baseball in the 1893-94 school year.
Texas joined the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association (SIAA, predecessor to the SEC) in 1895.
The Charter members of the SIAA included Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Johns Hopkins, Sewanee, and Vanderbilt, and the new members in 1895; Central (Eastern Kentucky), Clemson, Cumberland, Kentucky, LSU, Mercer, Mississippi A&M (Mississippi State), Southwestern Presbyterian University (Rhodes College), Texas, Tulane, and the University of Nashville.
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