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re: Clay Travis is now going after Butch, claims Kendrick did not go through protocol

Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Unique, but strangely not the only time i've seen it. You are really going after UT, why the hatred?


You serious Clark? David Ricky is a UT fan... not going after UT... going after bUTch...
Posted by LouisvilleKat
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:17 pm to
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You serious Clark? David Ricky is a UT fan... not going after UT... going after bUTch...


well.. unless UT has become Butch.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:19 pm to
Those guy is an idiot. He claimed yesterday a coaches recruiting ability is overrated
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:21 pm to
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and pointed out that Kendrick’s back up had not made the trip to Lexington.


I’m sorry... what?
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:23 pm to
Wells was basically telling him he had to play because they didn't have a backup
Posted by DoreonthePlains
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:25 pm to
How the hell do you not have a backup RT travel? Was that guy sick or hurt? I'm so confused. Butch does some really dumb things.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:27 pm to
Assuming the backup was injured? There was thread here the other day that UT only has 6 healthy linemen ATM.
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:33 pm to
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Those guy is an idiot. He claimed yesterday a coaches recruiting ability is overrated

No he didn't. He said certain schools recruit themselves and have the built in advantage of being a blueblood program with great facilities AND are in an area of the country that has a large number of d1 athletes. His specific example was Tennessee vs Nebraska. Tennessee has all 3 while Nebraska just has 2 of the 3. But keep on hearing whatever it is you want to hear.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:34 pm to
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He's been pretty good at predicting nearly everything that has happened at ESPN over the last 2 years.


I mean, the writing was on the wall. It was never a big secret that ESPN was in trouble because of a number of the business decisions they had made and the changing landscape of media consumption.

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He also likes to look at facts and find out what actually happened instead of claiming race baiting frauds like Michael Bennett are brave heroes or comparing Kaepernick to a modern day Rosa Parks.


He likes to pander to his base of southern college football fans. He cherry picks examples of complex, nuanced issues and presents the entire issue as though it were cut-and-dry. All the while calling out those he disagrees with for their misplaced outrage, without acknowledging that he is guilty of the same thing.

He's good at what he does: exploiting the convictions of those that read his work. Providing narrowly tailored talking points and examples for people who claim objectivity but really already have their minds made up on the majority of news items the moment it breaks
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 1:38 pm
Posted by UAtide11
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:35 pm to
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Those guy is an idiot. He claimed yesterday a coaches recruiting ability is overrated


He also said, during the UT basketball head coaching search (that ultimately led to hiring Donnie Tyndall) that UT was the 2nd or at least 3rd best basketball job in the SEC.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:38 pm to
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Wells was basically telling him he had to play because they didn't have a backup


Yeah, I gathered that. But how the hell do you make a road trip without someone capable of filling in for a guy who doesn’t know where he’s at? Was there not a single capable backup that would have allowed them to shift some players around? The hell?
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:40 pm to
Tennessee only has like 6 healthy linemen on the depth chart right now iirc. Tons of injuries and they are pulling the redshirt off a freshman this week

And Butch is a fricking moron lol
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:52 pm to
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I mean, the writing was on the wall.

The writing wasn't on the wall 2 years ago. He was literally the first person to point out their business model would fail.
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He likes to pander to his base of southern college football fans. He cherry picks examples of complex, nuanced issues and presents the entire issue as though it were cut-and-dry. All the while calling out those he disagrees with for their misplaced outrage, without acknowledging that he is guilty of the same thing.

By pandering you mean looking at the facts of a case or a situation and asking for more evidence than a 140 character twitter headline? Is is a stereotypical trait of southern college football fans? To want to learn all the facts about a situation to avoid making an uninformed opinion? Is that what southern college football fans are known for? Wanting facts and evidence of a case?
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Providing narrowly tailored talking points and examples for people who claim objectivity but really already have their minds made up on the majority of news items the moment it breaks

Please link one example of this. Just one.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:57 pm to
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Looking at the gifs of him on the field, it's obvious that something wasn't right. He didn't even know that the ball had been snapped in at least one of them.

Seems like coaches in the booth, teammates, waterboys, trainers...somebody would've (and perhaps did) inform Butch that the kid needed to go in the tent and be checked out. Hard to fathom that he was being played with obvious concussion symptoms.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted by UAtide11
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 2:09 pm to
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The writing wasn't on the wall 2 years ago. He was literally the first person to point out their business model would fail.


You couldn't be more wrong. Simple google search for "ESPN trouble" with a date set prior to 12/31/2014 yields this

Why ESPN may be in trouble - Business Insider

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By pandering you mean looking at the facts of a case or a situation and asking for more evidence than a 140 character twitter headline? Is is a stereotypical trait of southern college football fans? To want to learn all the facts about a situation to avoid making an uninformed opinion? Is that what southern college football fans are known for? Wanting facts and evidence of a case?


You're awfully defensive about this. To the extent he "gathers all the facts" about a situation, he seems to only deeply investigate issues that appeal to conservatives that are fed up with people kneeling or tired of ESPN liberal bias.

Look, it's fine if you like Clay Travis's work. I get it, he's fairly popular with his target demographic. Not my particular cup of tea. But if you think he's wholly objective about all the issues on which he writes, I would have to disagree.

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Please link one example of this. Just one.


When I get a minute to dig through his website I will
Posted by Teague
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 2:17 pm to
Looks like you've found Clay's username here.
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 2:21 pm to
I have a love-hate relationship with Clay Travis. I do appreciate that he doesn't regurgitate the PC view on everything and instead tries to look at things with facts and statistics from a...somewhat...neutral point of view.

But holy shite if something sticks does he beat it into the ground. I swear I see 5 Tweets a day from the guy over the last couple of months about how the protests are killing the NFL.

That's fine and all, but if you constantly obsess over the political shite in sports then you become a reflection of the ESPN model, just with an opposing view point. But that's what gets the guy clicks, I suppose.
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 2:22 pm to
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You couldn't be more wrong. Simple google search for "ESPN trouble" with a date set prior to 12/31/2014 yields this

From your own link
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ESPN is safe, for now. While ESPN's share of the market is shrinking, it is still in a position of dominance, a position that is enhanced by its strong numbers in other forms of media, such as streaming video through online ESPN outlets.

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You're awfully defensive about this. To the extent he "gathers all the facts" about a situation, he seems to only deeply investigate issues that appeal to conservatives that are fed up with people kneeling or tired of ESPN liberal bias.

When he wrote an entire article saying why Jamele Hill shouldn't be fired for her Trump comments, was that a conservative view point. Or when he said Ezekial Elliot shouldn't be suspended for 6 games based on a lack of evidence or credible witness? What about when he voted for Obama twice or worked for Al Gore's Presidential campaign? Really conservative moves there.

This is what is frustrating about people like you. Pointing out how stupid Kaepernick was for protesting something that was already occuring (he wanted justice dept investigations into all police shootings under a black president and a black attorney general who were already doing so) isn't a liberal/conservative issue. It's common sense. Just because you disagree with it doesn't automatically make it conservative. Pointing out FBI crime stats doesn't make him a panderer. Neither does pointing out with 100% accuracy that the videos of Michael Bennett in that las vegas casion prove he lied about everything.
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But if you think he's wholly objective about all the issues on which he writes, I would have to disagree.

You can be wrong all you want.
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When I get a minute to dig through his website I will

Eagerly waiting
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 2:26 pm to
The guy is quite intelligent and certainly writes well. Unfortunately, there isn't much of a market for getting impartial opinion pieces. People generally want to read something they agree with, he knows that. He has a pretty good idea of who his readers/listeners are and which way they are going to break on an issue.
Posted by five_fivesix
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 2:26 pm to
Take So. Miss and the points.
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