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re: Clay Travis alleges Miller responded to Miles’ text to bring the gun

Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29653 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:47 pm to
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And you think those people that know are actually going to reply to every dimwit out there making allegations?



Miller’s attorney put out a pretty detailed response to allegations yesterday, but curiously failed to address when Miller read the text.

Alabama’s AD and his team made a collective decision that Miller was “ok to play” without confirming this question was addressed to their satisfaction, or if they even investigated this question at all.

That leaves a lot of room for people to make what they feel are reasonable conclusions based on what is known and what the involved parties are failing to say. If it’s wrong then fricking say it.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23756 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:00 pm to
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That leaves a lot of room for people to make what they feel are reasonable conclusions


It leaves room for people to make assumptions.

Also...also the link you provided was from today. Miller's attorneys statement was yesterday. They are, again, going to reply to every dimwit out there? Every allegation when their client has already been cleared by the DAs office?

Here's what you need to know. Miller's phone records were gathered for investigation with a search warrant. The police, and the DA, didn't see anything that would lead to charges with the text or his phone records.

Clay Travis is not the police and he isn't the DA.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
89981 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:01 pm to
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If Brandon Miller simply had not responded to that text, the mom of that 5-year-old would still be alive.
Y’all haven’t said a word about this woman being home with her child at 1:38 in the morning


Y’all are terrible people.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:07 pm to
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If that mom of a 5 year old would’ve stayed home with her 5 year old, she’d also probably still be alive


lol and this take has 16 upvotes.

All 17 of you are fricking losers.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51079 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:09 pm to
She was asking to get murdered
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:10 pm to
She had the audacity to rebuff the advances of an idiot thug and totally deserved to get shot.
Posted by CelticTiger
Saint Louis
Member since Feb 2019
1566 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:15 pm to
I try to read things very critically before forming an opinion on the author's argument. The following statement leads me to believe the author does not have a firm grasp on even the admittedly scant details not in dispute:

quote:

If Brandon Miller had left the gun in his apartment, driven there, picked up his teammate, and brought him back home, that woman would still be alive.
(emphasis mine)

The author seems to be under the impression that Miller was home playing video games in his PJs and Miles called and said "go grab me my gun, it's in my sock drawer third from the top on the right side, and bring it to me "

What appears to be widely accepted is that the gun was already in Miller's car, left there earlier by Miles. Thta is a MAJOR distinction!

I'm not coming down one way or another with this post. MY ONLY POINT is do your fricking homework if you are going to publish an opinion on something.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29653 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:16 pm to
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It leaves room for people to make assumptions.


When the text is received 7 minutes before Miller arrived at the scene, and Miller’s attorney is NOT saying he didn’t read it before arriving at the scene, then it feels like a pretty safe assumption that Miller read it before arriving and delivering the gun. If that assumption is wrong then someone fricking say it. No one is.

quote:

Here's what you need to know. Miller's phone records were gathered for investigation with a search warrant. The police, and the DA, didn't see anything that would lead to charges with the text or his phone records.


Do the phone records tell us with certainty whether Miller knew the content of the text message before delivering the gun? The phone records aside, what is Miller saying about when he read the message? Has anyone even asked him?

The police and the DA decided not to pursue charges; that doesn’t mean other professionals in their shoes would have come to the same decision.
Posted by Bodie
Member since Aug 2022
2442 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:19 pm to
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you have a problem with the truth. Deal with it!


If someone from your family was murdered while being out late at night in a college town and some backwoods frickbag online implied “they’d be alive if they’d just stay home”, you’d probably wanna strangle him

Eat a dick, loser
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 10:20 pm
Posted by footswitch
Meridianville, Alabama
Member since Apr 2015
4672 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:23 pm to
She should have been at home with her child.
Posted by Bodie
Member since Aug 2022
2442 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:24 pm to
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She should have been at home with her child.


Why? People with children aren’t allowed to do things on weekend nights?
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 10:25 pm
Posted by G&P
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
2403 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:24 pm to
Total failure! "Institutional Oversight is essential to prevent abuse of power, corruption, and other unethical or illegal activities that could harm individuals or society as a whole."

Posted by footswitch
Meridianville, Alabama
Member since Apr 2015
4672 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:25 pm to
Dear JonHam…
frick you.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51079 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:28 pm to
These people don’t have kids or spend every waking moment with them I guess

My kid spent the night at my parents last weekend, I should’ve been shot and killed
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Bodie
Member since Aug 2022
2442 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:31 pm to
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These people don’t have kids or I guess spend every waking moment with them



Im legitimately mind blown I’ve seen a handful of Alabama fans imply this woman should’ve stayed home if she didn’t want to be murdered

Seriously one of the scummiest things I’ve seen any fanbase of any sport say online
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23756 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:35 pm to
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pretty safe assumption


It is not. It is just as much an assumption that he didn't. It's not factual and holds no place in court.

Be honest how many different and misleading statements and assumptions have you seen in these threads? Too many to name, is anyone's attorney or the DAs office going to address every assumption out there? No they aren't. At the end of the day your assumptions don't mean anything to the DAs office or Miller's attorney. Neither does Clay Travis's assumptions.


quote:

The phone records aside, what is Miller saying about when he read the message? Has anyone even asked him?


You're kidding right?
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29653 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:38 pm to
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It's not factual and holds no place in court.


Then I’m sure someone with authority will let us know soon how unfactual it is. We’re coming up on day 3.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23756 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:47 pm to
[quote]Then I’m sure someone with authority will let us know soon how unfactual it is. We’re coming up on day 3[/quote


They don't have to let you know anything and won't. But you should definitely start another thread about it.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
13233 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:50 pm to
In the “attention economy” he’s sure got you guys talking about him
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
6131 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:51 pm to
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What he means by “not responding” is Miller not showing up.


Yes. What’s so hard t understand? Had Miller not showed up with the gun the woman would be alive.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 10:52 pm
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