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re: Claimed titles 1936- present, but not selected by AP or Coach's poll.....

Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:30 am to
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:30 am to
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That's a lot of work just to make claim to a title you never claimed for the better part of a century.


What work?
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:32 am to
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Legit


Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
5865 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:42 am to
What about Central Florida’s claim a few years ago?
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:49 am to
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Carnegie Tech (Who?)


That's Carnegie Mellon.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:57 am to
Doing my beat to remove all my biases, I gotta say great work OP.

And thanks for pointing out that the majority of AP and UPI voters were from outside the south at that time. That shows how some head scratchers were chosen over the SEC team.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 10:00 am to
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Why do I need you to back me up? In 1964 UPI and AP claimed it for us. In 1966 you live with what you can't change.

If teams actually played each other for championships for over 100 years, the entire history of college football would look much different. That's not my fault, or yours, or BAMA's. I wouldn't spend a minute of my time worrying about a beauty contest that nobody around here these days even saw. Trying to make a federal case out of it now is superfluous.


I was referring to "you" as in Alabama. Not you personally.


BTW, the 1966 Tide are a lot like the 1946 Dawgs. We weren't coming off of a national title, but we went undefeated. Had some nice wins over ranked opponents. Beat everyone by at least ten (you had a nail biter with Tennessee).But finished third because Army and Notre Dame were thought to be better and they tied each other when they played and won the rest of their games. Bias or not, at least opponent rankings wise and the way the teams won their games, I can see how some might think those Notre Dame teams and Michigan State and Army teams were the best in both years.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11087 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 10:04 am to
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Doing my beat to remove all my biases, I gotta say great work OP.

And thanks for pointing out that the majority of AP and UPI voters were from outside the south at that time. That shows how some head scratchers were chosen over the SEC team.


I was kind of surprised to find that almost all at least had a good argument to claim it. That's among the current SEC teams. The two from Tennessee (1940 and 1967) and Alabama (1941) are kind of WTH?. But among the others, even if I think they ultimately shouldn't claim it, I think they can make a good argument.

I had never really looked into it and Tennessee gets made fun of often for claiming four non AP titles in the AP poll era. But two of their claims are legit.
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
6221 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 10:29 am to
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Tennessee claims 1938 according to Wikipedia. That's why I looked at it in the post.

You’re right, I was thinking 1939. My apologies.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 10:34 am to
It’s very simple. ncaa.com is an unbiased source

LINK
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11087 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 10:38 am to
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but not selected by AP or Coach's poll.....
themetalreb
What about Central Florida’s claim a few years ago?


When they join the SEC I'll look into it. Probably no chance now UTK will stop claiming 1967 though.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11087 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 10:42 am to
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It’s very simple. ncaa.com is an unbiased source


No such thing. But if they can explain why they suddenly dropped selectors they used in 1935 that were still around in 1936, that would be helpful. And why did they all the sudden start adding others later.

As I've said, the AP was far more biased then that it is now. They made a concerted effort to have sportswriters spread out in different regions of the country do their polls now. At that time, they did not and it's pretty obvious that they favored teams from Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, etc. And yet for over a decade that's all the NCAA used? It's a rewriting of history.
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 10:44 am
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
3295 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 10:43 am to
41..I don't claim but Minnesota only 8 0 and no bowl to get exposed.

Bama 2 losses but at the end of season bama wins bowl and the top 5 lost bowl or dnp...boom rtr ..a piece maybe

Last man standing similar to 07 lsu..

Oklahoma natties while on probation so no bowl games ..off probation..boom Arkansas beats the living shat out of them and exposes them as a fraud the whole team.

Same with Notre dame and Minnesota

FRAUDULENT
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 10:46 am
Posted by SRV
Banging in The Rock
Member since Nov 2021
1529 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:08 am to
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Live with it, dude.


If you think my life is somehow affected by this in any way, and I’m worked up over it….you would be mistaken.



Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
14496 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:11 am to
Got cheated in '45 and '77 too. '77 and '66 would have led to 3-peats.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30812 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:44 am to
Alabama's '41 claim needs to be swapped for the '66 gang rape of that Tide team!
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11087 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:57 am to
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41..I don't claim but Minnesota only 8 0 and no bowl to get exposed.


You were no. 20 in the AP poll before the bowl games. Twenty.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11087 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 12:05 pm to
I'd say they paid you back well in 73 and 78, but that's just me.
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Got cheated in '45 and '77 too. '77 and '66 would have led to 3-peats.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30667 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 12:21 pm to
bullshite list that treats exhibition games as official games.

Can't take anything you say here serious.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30667 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 12:22 pm to
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It’s very simple. ncaa.com is an unbiased source

LINK


The NCAA will list anything people want to put on there. The NCAA does not "recognize" any national championships, it's nothing more than a list some editor puts out.

If you believe otherwise, please show me the official guidelines the NCAA uses when recognizing national championships.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30667 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Imagine being named the national champion. You spend an entire month celebrating knowing you are a national champion. Then after that month, you play in an exhibition game that you go into knowing doesn't count.

And then 50 years later some dumbass starts pretending it's an official game that counts.

Don't be that dumbass.
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