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re: check in if you're fat
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:58 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:58 am to Harry Rex Vonner
COVID hasn’t done me any favors that’s for sure
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:06 am to starkvingrad
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Let's all be honest- the concept of BMI is pretty outdated. It doesn't factor in things like muscle density. And people are just larger now. Vast majority of us aren't day laborers with a rail-skinny build anymore.
I'm really talking about the people who are huge. Obesity is a major epidemic. It is disgusting to see how big people are getting.
Now excuse me, I have some Oreos in the pantry that I'm going to grab
you are full of shite. BMI is not outdated and people are only larger in the fat department.
less than 10% of americans lift weights or perform any type of resistance training. those over 30 and its less than 5%. Less than half of that truely train with enough intensity and volume to buidl any meaningful muscle that approaches the upper FFMI index which would be required to really throw off bmi.
the average american isnt an nfl conerback or running back. BMI is a pretty damn good indicator. now the arbitrary hard cut off points...yea they are arbitrary. But the range gives you a decent indication.
if you are not less than 20% bodyfat......well you are fricking fat. if you are more than 25% you are obese, more than 30% morbidly obese.
the 20-30lbs overweight crowd are the real fat acceptance problem.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:27 am to starkvingrad
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Let's be honest, half the posters here should "check in" but won't. America is a fat and gross country now.
STHU you big fat biiaaaattttccccchhhh!
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:33 am to so_comfort
It can be. However, most people who diet almost always fail by eventually gaining all the weight back after their eating habits slowly revert back to what they originally were. This is why I don't believe "diets" work. Life change does.
Nutrition is not even hard, honestly. It's just common sense. We need to eat properly and get enough exercise. Processed foods and/or foods that are high in sugar need to be thrown out entirely, or at minimum strictly limited. Not only do they make us overweight, but they also make us ill and cause many health problems. Our plates need to consist of a lot of vegetables, good protein, some carbs (rice, sweet potato etc), and a little fruit. We also eat too much as a culture, so portion control is also important. Athletes and those who work hard at the gym need more protein AND carbs, those who don't need significantly less.
Go to the gym. Join and go at least three days a week for an 1 to 2 hours at a weightlifting or MMA gym. Frick CrossFit because those people are stupid and cause their clients way too many injures.
My approach seems simple because it should be for the average person. We get very detailed with some athletes, but it shouldn't take that much effort for the average person to lose weight and get into better shape. We can over analyze this stuff to death but it's pretty simple. It's also tried and true. I've seen this common sense approach work with my own eyes hundreds of times in the last 20 years.
Nutrition is not even hard, honestly. It's just common sense. We need to eat properly and get enough exercise. Processed foods and/or foods that are high in sugar need to be thrown out entirely, or at minimum strictly limited. Not only do they make us overweight, but they also make us ill and cause many health problems. Our plates need to consist of a lot of vegetables, good protein, some carbs (rice, sweet potato etc), and a little fruit. We also eat too much as a culture, so portion control is also important. Athletes and those who work hard at the gym need more protein AND carbs, those who don't need significantly less.
Go to the gym. Join and go at least three days a week for an 1 to 2 hours at a weightlifting or MMA gym. Frick CrossFit because those people are stupid and cause their clients way too many injures.
My approach seems simple because it should be for the average person. We get very detailed with some athletes, but it shouldn't take that much effort for the average person to lose weight and get into better shape. We can over analyze this stuff to death but it's pretty simple. It's also tried and true. I've seen this common sense approach work with my own eyes hundreds of times in the last 20 years.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:34 am to lsu777
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you are full of shite. BMI is not outdated and people are only larger in the fat department.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your statement but to say people are only larger in the fat department is somewhat moronic.
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the 20-30lbs overweight crowd are the real fat acceptance problem.
Never understood why people care about other people's perception of what's fat or not.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:37 am to SidewalkTiger
BMI is bullshite. According to BMI, I'm overweight. I'm 6'1", 225 lbs and fit as a fiddle. What matters is body fat percentage. That's pretty much all that matters.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:41 am to Nitro Express
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This is why I don't believe "diets" work.
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Nutrition is not even hard, honestly. It's just common sense. We need to eat properly and get enough exercise.
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My approach seems simple
Agree with all of this. So many people would ask me what the secret was when I was losing all of my weight. My answer was always "eat right and excercise." The amount of people that would groan and dismiss what I was saying as if there was no way that they would ever do that was startling.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:45 am to SidewalkTiger
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Never understood why people care about other people's perception of what's fat or not.
becasue the same idiots post on the OT about an obese model being an issue, yet they are close to obese themselves.
Mainly because they cost people like me a shite ton every year in insurance cost
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I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your statement but to say people are only larger in the fat department is somewhat moronic.
is it? Do people on average have larger bones now a days than americans in the 50s-90s? Are they carrying more muscle mass? If its not those two....only thing left is fat.
Average bmi for american female was 25.2 in the '60s, 24.9 in the '70s, 25 in the '80s, and 26.3 in the '90s. Currently it is almost 30.
American Males are slightly taller on average than in the 60s (about an inch) yet are over 30lbs heavier on average.
Americans are fat.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:47 am to Harry Rex Vonner
I'm pleasantly plump does that count
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:48 am to Nitro Express
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BMI is bullshite. According to BMI, I'm overweight. I'm 6'1", 225 lbs and fit as a fiddle. What matters is body fat percentage. That's pretty much all that matters.
if you are being honest and really 6'1 and 225 and below 15% body fat as the fit as fiddle implies....well you are either using steroids or have the genetics of an NFL running back and have been lifting for over 20 years consistently and progressively. Either way...congrats on all of your hard work paying off, and I mean that seriously.
But...i think you are full of shite and are not fit as a fiddle and are prolly closer to 25% bodyfat.
Either way, BMI isnt bullshite and works for measuring 97% of the popultion. If you are really that fit, you are an outlier, not the rule.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:50 am to TigerLunatik
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So many people would ask me what the secret was when I was losing all of my weight.
Yep. Same here. Everyone is looking for some easy secret. No, you have to change your life. My secret, I don't eat a bunch of fats, sugars, or carbs. There is too much of all of that everywhere. Everyone wants to get some super no carb or no sugar or no this. You have to cut back on everything, not just one thing. There is too much crap in the food we eat and we eat too much food. It really is simple. Just not easy, because we are conditioned to treat food as a "live to eat" mentality rather than the correct "eat to live" mentality.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:51 am to lsu777
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becasue the same idiots post on the OT about an obese model being an issue, yet they are close to obese themselves.
And there you are in every topic, crying.
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Mainly because they cost people like me a shite ton every year in insurance cost
Sure
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:55 am to wareaglepete
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My secret, I don't eat a bunch of fats, sugars, or carbs.
The two main things I cut out were sugar and red meat. My best friend and I were taking and I said that I only drink water and no red meat. His response was "how do you live?"
I eat plain Greek yogurt pretty much daily. They didn't have any one time so I just got some vanilla. It tasted like a pixie stick to me. Most people don't understand that your taste buds change once you stick to eating healthy.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:55 am to Harry Rex Vonner
6’3 1/4” 201 here
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:59 am to TigerLunatik
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Most people don't understand that your taste buds change once you stick to eating healthy.
This is true. I rarely eat sweets, so anything too sugary grosses me out. My wife and I cook almost all our meals, so when we visit the South and go out to eat, we both get sick from all the grease and sugar.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:00 am to SidewalkTiger
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And there you are in every topic, crying.
no just calling people that are fat themselves hypocrits. I honestly could give two shits what others do outside of it driving health care cost up.
I workout in a garage gym and dont even see people. i could give too shits but have some self awareness fatty.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:00 am to TigerLunatik
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Agree with all of this. So many people would ask me what the secret was when I was losing all of my weight. My answer was always "eat right and excercise." The amount of people that would groan and dismiss what I was saying as if there was no way that they would ever do that was startling.
I get that all the time. Lol. I think it's because people want a magic formula, or magic pill, or some shortcut way to get into shape and there's not one. It usually takes years of neglect for a person to become overweight and in need of a life change, but then they want to fix years of being lazy and eating bad with minimal effort. Just doesn't work that way. I wish it did! I'd go dive into some pasta, bread, and top it off with a milkshake right now.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:12 am to 3down10
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I eat Keto.
It's the only time in my life I've been happy while eating only 1500 calories a day.
I also do intermediate fasting. I eat breakfast every day around noon, and then I eat my last bit around 8pm. I always start the day with bacon and eggs, sometimes sausage from time to time. It's fricking delicious and it's like 75-80% fat.
It's definitely not BS, but it's very hard to do properly. You have to weigh and measure what you eat. Lucky for me my wife does all that. And there are lots of hidden carbs in food, you can't just take the bun off a burger.
My problem after doing it for over 3 years is I'm just sick and tired of the limited menu. So I don't really stick to it as much as I previously did. I probably take in about 20-50 carbs a day rather than keeping it under 20 like I use to. AKA I'm putting some sweet baby rays on my grilled chicken.
It's not for everyone. If you aren't someone who likes fattier foods I wouldn't recommend it. Because it doesn't matter what diet you do, if you quit the diet you will gain the weight back. It has to be a lifestyle change. I'm thinking about how good those bacon and eggs are going to be tomorrow already.
I basically did this after graduating from Ole Miss (gained roughly 40 pounds by the end
) Did strict keto and Intermittent fasting (OMAD) aiming for 1600-1800 calories a day with 10k steps. 2 years later I still do OMAD but am less strict on the keto aspect and just do less processed carbs. Lost over 60 pounds and have hovered around 165 ever since at 6ft tall (still aim for 7500 steps at minimum)Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:12 am to lsu777
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if you are being honest and really 6'1 and 225 and below 15% body fat as the fit as fiddle implies....well you are either using steroids or have the genetics of an NFL running back and have been lifting for over 20 years consistently and progressively. Either way...congrats on all of your hard work paying off, and I mean that seriously.
But...i think you are full of shite and are not fit as a fiddle and are prolly closer to 25% bodyfat.
Either way, BMI isnt bull shite and works for measuring 97% of the popultion. If you are really that fit, you are an outlier, not the
What a dumb arse thing to say. If you must know, I am right at 14-15% body fat most of the time. I have always stayed active and have had a good diet for as long as I can remember. 6'1 225 isn't massive. It's not small, no, but I'm not some yoked looking steroid junkie either. If I wanted to, I could start eating more and jump to 240, but I don't want to do that because it's harder to maintain with a diet. All that food is a real pain in my gut. 240 would be big, but I'd also be slow and little too bulky. I want neither.
Your problem, much like many Americans today, they see a fit person and automatically say "they're on steroids". Being fit is a choice, and it takes hard work, and almost anyone can do it if they so choose. My profession just so happens to sort of require me staying in shape. Well, it doesn't have to require me to stay in shape, but it's a hell of a lot better/easier if I do. Plus, I don't want to be overweight for a number of reasons: I want to like the way I look, I want to like the way I feel, and I don't want all the health problems related to bad diet and obesity.
Take the steroid BS somewhere else, and stop making excuses for everyone that chose to be fat by tearing down those who chose otherwise.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:40 am to Nitro Express
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What a dumb arse thing to say.
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Your problem, much like many Americans today, they see a fit person and automatically say "they're on steroids". Being fit is a choice, and it takes hard work, and almost anyone can do it if they so choose. My profession just so happens to sort of require me staying in shape. Well, it doesn't have to require me to stay in shape, but it's a hell of a lot better/easier if I do. Plus, I don't want to be overweight for a number of reasons: I want to like the way I look, I want to like the way I feel, and I don't want all the health problems related to bad diet and obesity.
Take the steroid BS somewhere else, and stop making excuses for everyone that chose to be fat by tearing down those who chose otherwise.
not even close. I lift and have for 25+ years and have mutliple certifcations. Come over to the H&F board and you would realize i know wtf i am talking about.
simply put at 6'1 and 225 at a true 15% bodyfat you are carrying around 190lbs of lean tissue which puts your ffmi in the catagory of superior and puts you in the catagory of likely steroid user or having great genetics and over a decade of dedicated training under your belt. I wasnt being a dick and congratulated you either way. Either way that is one hell of an achomplishment.
and yes 6'1 225 @ 15% is absolutely jacked as frick.
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Take the steroid BS somewhere else, and stop making excuses for everyone that chose to be fat by tearing down those who chose otherwise.
i think you misunderstood. I was doing the opposite. Proud of your work steroids or not.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 11:45 am
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